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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 11:47:32
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The port should have been done 2 years ago. Now it's too late. PegasosII is old technology today.


Yeah, better port to a speedy Powervixxen LT or some unproven Chinese 3rd party evaluation mainboards.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 11:47:42
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AROS maybe slow in developement, but it's got a future since it's OSS.
Then again, I don't remember seeing a 64 bit verion of OS4 nor MOS.

Doesn't that means that for him AROS is the only one to have any kind of future ?


AROS is the only OS of the three that is Open Source, and seen on that light.
AROS stands for Amiga Research Operating System, and as of which going 64bit can be seen as a quantum leap to their porposes, researching and adapting todays hardware to an Amiga inspired OS.

AROS choose another path out of the three, 1st he chose the Open Source Movement, 2nd drop away direct compatibility (only on 68k), the only compatibility you can get is either through UAE or by a new recompile (which might need few or no changes of its source).

Regarding Dammy sentence, it's only natural Dammy to stand for AROS as is Ben Hermans standing on AmigaOS 4 behalf.

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They'd be happier to put their trust in obvious vapor than have anything related to BBRV or Genesi. And that's why OS4 is dead.

Which to some degree is truem, by they I would refer to those who prefer any platform to Genesis one, unregardless of price, performance... to those of which Genesi are teh evil

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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@Helgis

Intel also uses RISC.. So does all modern CPU's today.

As Zylesea said many hide RISC behind a CISC fasade of sort to be backwards compatible.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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Hehe, nice try but no We have to see how things will turn out in the end, but again i was not the person that mentioned OS4 on PS3. Surprisingly, this MIGHT happen, cause PS3 is an embedded system, which most games consoles actually are..

Only Hyperion can answer this one. As i don't work for Hyperion, i don't know this..

 
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@polka.

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Yeah, better port to a speedy Powervixxen LT or some unproven Chinese 3rd party evaluation mainboards


Well Troika I believe when I see something from, ACK on the other hand I believe because it's
Adam behind the company. He has some history.

Do you really think PegasosII is a good idea to port to now? Will Genesi manufacture it
anymore? Or was the last batch the final one? It seems Genesi is moving to new boards now.

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@Helgis

When intel put the pentium to market they started with a new core which was clearly inspired by RISC technologies.
That processor has a native instruction set (which is more to be considered as RISC) and a unit which translates x86 code to its genuine code.

All current Intel x86 compatible and AMD x86 compatible chips have a RISC heart.
As said the discrimination between RISC and CISC is from earlier days...

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Then everybody is using the RISC concept Interesting, very interesting

 
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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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@Helgis

I've changed my point of view, like you. Now my dream is to see a Cell card to put inside an Amiga...
see: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=19278&forum=17&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0

post #32

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:02:30
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Well Troika I believe when I see something from


Comment taken from another site, Troika has not proved otherwise.

-
Well, this must surely be the last nail in the coffin for the Troika hoax.
As sad as it may be (because it surely has been funny to see it going on for
such a long time, with each new action more extreme than the previous,
and all the "muppets" dancing along all the way while closing their eyes to
the *most obvious* clues and hints about it being a hoax), it finally went over
the edge. No-one can possibly fail to see "Troika" for what they are after this; a
long-lasting joke and a way for someone to make fun of the last few muppets at their
own expense ...

This has been the most beutiful hoax I have ever seen. I applaude the ones behind it!
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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:08:28
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@Samwel

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Well Troika I believe when I see something from, ACK on the other hand I believe because it's Adam behind the company. He has some history.


Re: Troika
Well we have already seen some fancy DPaint-sketches, strange board layouts and a photo of a Chinese evaluation mainboard from them. However what I've seen, and more important what I've read from them, doesn't make me very optimistic we'll ever see anything from them.

Re: ACK
I fully agree that it's important to have somebody with a "real name" behind it who has some history. However, I must say that his "history" concerning hardware is nothing but a disaster so far. Remember when the PV was first announced? Remember the "in production" statement? Oh well, let's still hope for the best and see what he has to show us next Saturday.

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Do you really think PegasosII is a good idea to port to now?


Yes, I always thought that it's a good idea, because it's relatively cheap and proven hardware. But what I think about it is rather irrelevant to Amiga Inc. who will probably never grant a license for it.

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And, why didn't you just post it here? Nothing offensive in your response.


Because I don't want to pollute a thread with personal issues. So, please, feel free to use my private mailbox.

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@polka.

What the heck was so wrong with the old photo?

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[italian on]
vabbè.. l'altra era proprio brutta.. sai che assomigli al cantante dei negrita?? o sei tu??
[italian off]

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vabbè.. l'altra era proprio brutta..


Potrei portarti testimonianze di chi la pensa moooolto diversamente.

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:15:09
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@falemagn

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What the heck was so wrong with the old photo?


Nothing, you were looking fine as always and we were only joking.
But let's not pollute this thread with personal issues.

@afxgroup

Non è bello ciò è bello.

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:19:35
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I think AmagaOS should try to fully support all PPC hardware before they try to cross over to X86. There is more potential in the PPC side then the X86 because of the requirement for all X86 to be based of the original 8086/8088 computers.

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@Helgis

Did you suddenly start liking PPC again because I mentioned the 16 core PPC in development? Do you realise that Intel/AMD have similar stuff in the pipeline, and chances are they will either match or better the future PASemi chips? I wasnt trying to say that PPC will be an x86 beater.

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@all

I wake up to another 5 page x86 thread. Five pages and nothing new. As you can see, I have nothing new to add either.

Here's a very basic summary for those that are too lazy to read it all. Note, it misses some pretty cool parts of the thread such as the bit about the dual-Helgis brain. You really should read the whole thread, it's quite entertaining. Anyway:

I want OS4 on x86.
You can't have it.
Why not?
I've told you this thousands of times, look it up.
But why not?
Sigh, the decision was made a long time ago, too late to go back.
Really?
Yes really.
That's sad.
Hey, there are some cool PowerPC chips in the works you know.
Really? I'm ok with PowerPC now!
Well I'm not.
Why not?
I want OS4 on x86.
...


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