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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:53:42
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Think about it. This board would not appeal the general public in a window placed next to an AMD64 motherboard. However it could sell like hotcakes in the geek shop lying next to c64-on-a-stick, Atari-on-a-stick and so on. |
Hey Desler,
I want beef lasagna on a stick!!!!!
Could it have TWO CPUs? A G4 and a slave 440 CPU??
ikir, more clues! More clues, one every day! |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:57:36
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:00:48
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i think the cpu will be 440EPx, if you read well it is RoHS compliant!
i see on 440ep datasheet also it is RoHS compliant the EPx version is better: gigabit ethernet and fast ddr2 ram support over 2GB/sec Last edited by SOFISTISOFTWARE on 09-Sep-2006 at 12:12 AM.
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:20:40
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Could it have TWO CPUs? A G4 and a slave 440 CPU?? |
Yes! It's an extended version of the Pegasos II based on the "Open Pegasos". The "slave 440 CPU" works as a dongle-security-CPU for protecting the holy lady against the installation of other evil OS such as MOS and Linux. Last edited by hatschi on 08-Sep-2006 at 10:26 PM.
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:20:42
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| Could the chip on the left be something more... custom? I.e. ASIC, FPGA...
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:23:02
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Could the chip on the left be something more... custom? I.e. ASIC, FPGA... |
Yeah, what about a Minimig or C64DTV-mode? |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:27:35
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| Why would you want a Radeon 9200 on a board with a 667mhz CPU with no L2 Cache, it would be starved. a simple radeon mobility would be a better option to keep cost and power requirements down. A low end board needs a low end GPU, keep yer expensive stuff for the 1.7ghz G4s.
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:37:49
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µA1 has ATI mobility, so will Powervixxen LT and now maybe Samamtha too. Maybe in ten years time demo coders will be pushing this hardware to its limits. |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:39:29
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It's become like a drug now! More clues, MORE CLUES! | Hi TheDaddy, hatschi,
Heheheh!
Okay, when can it be bought?
No Altivec? Well, there's definitely room for at LEAST 2 AOS4.0 motherboards, a high and low end.
These WILL be hard to get. They will constantly be out of stock. These could be the "C64" of Amiga again, price being low enough. For instance, connecting this to a high end G4 at 1.7GHz should be interesting. Hmmmm, yeah, a little cluster... |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 23:10:44
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 8-Sep-2006 23:14:57
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 0:49:41
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| Some of Polka's posts annoy me (which is good, because he makes people think) and there are some that I agree with. I can't find the thread, but it was last week, I think, when he said (something like) that we really need a low-entry level OS4-playing Amiga to get the market moving. I agree completely, we need a modern-day equivalent of the A500/A600 to get the market started.
So *IF* Sam is a low-speed, low-spec cheap device, so much the better, it's what a lot of people need. Those wanting more power/more slots/more GFX can wait until the Troika or the PV TL come onto the market.
From the sound of it, an entry-level mobo with a low-speed, simple 440 CPU should sell like hot cakes. And the best of luck to them.
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 3:13:08
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What if we are all wrong and it's no 440 at all ? Did anyone confirm that yet ?
They want to come up with a pres release next week, is that right ?
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 8:56:44
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Mind you, it may not just be targetted to OS4 users, but possibly embedded solutions.
So it makes even more sense to have a board with low power consumption, small footprint, and good cpu-power/power-consumption ratio.
Just imagine if it had something like a programmable FPGA, it could be the hardware hacker's dream. |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 8:59:59
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AFAIK yes, a press release is just around the corner. _________________ La fortuna è cieca. La sfiga ci vede benissimo. |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 9:20:38
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| Can this new mobo be fitted to an a1200 case like the pv? it would be awesome!. From what i have read in this thread it's getting more interesting. I want it now! Jus for information, what will be the channels for buying it? Mail order? Whoah!, seems that at last i will have os4 on new hard! Hope the best for this project!
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 10:33:50
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| Ill buy anything to run os4 if the price is right, power is not a consideration, lowest price possible is all that matters to me. Looks like Samantha may be perfect. wish i had some idea of how much i need to save though, got 3 Pcs here ready for ebay so thats gonna help
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 10:48:56
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Ill buy anything to run os4 if the price is right, power is not a consideration, lowest price possible is all that matters to me. |
Same here. Price is what matters most to me. If it doesn't cost more than 300 EUR, I would get one of those just for playing around with OS4. I really like these kind of "odd" uncommon devices, however, I could never justify to spend something like 800 EUR on it. I would only pay more if it has more than just 'toy-status' to me, that is, if I can really use it for more serious tasks e.g. using good office software and a less outdated webbrowser.
So that would depend rather on *software* development than on *hardware* development. Cheap low-end hardware would be the best foundation to achieve that. Rather than expensive "high end" (by *our* standards that is) hardware that only a few hardcore Amigans can afford. |
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 10:52:27
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I want beef lasagna on a stick!!!!!
Could it have TWO CPUs? A G4 and a slave 440 CPU?? |
How would that work?? what northbridge would support a G4 and something completely different like a SoC next to it?? I'm not a hardware person, but that doesnt make any sense to me.
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Re: New hardware clue number 2 Posted on 9-Sep-2006 11:27:02
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it could host, for example, an "altivec" unit, or a video processing unit,or even a cpu core, if i've understood it right?
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