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herewegoagain 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 18:36:41
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@minator

The SPe surely looks alot better and supports 3 PCI-e (1 8X, 2 4X slots) That would be a nice chip but it still maxes out at 667MHz. Still, it would make a really nice entry level Amiga. I think this board will be sucessful regardless which chip they use, as long as the specs are reasonably good, and the cost is not too high.

I'm hoping if the onboard chip is ATI that it's at least Radeon 9200 or better. I guess we will see in two weeks.

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TheDaddy 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
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I wonder what kind of power supply will use, and what connector...

I need to find a suitable cool case

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Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 19:07:51
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This was definitely a good bit of news. I agree that the specs sound OK for an entry level amiga (speaking of which, what will provide the sound? built-in or PCI?) the only real question is pricing and packaging. If the machine is cheap enough and it's packaged correctly (ie not just a bare board), it could become the next-gen A500. Heck, if it's less than $300 I might buy one just because. I'll be watching this thread with interest...

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PulsatingQuasar 
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Posted on 8-Sep-2006 19:11:57
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As long I can add my own memory and graphics card!

Or those two things should be pretty good to start with.

For instance; 256 MB RAM. That's a joke. Minimum is 512 and that wouldn't cost much more. Same goes for the graphics chip. Anything below Radeon 7500 power and 64 MB graphics memory is a joke too.

I understand there should be a cost effective platform but reducing the size and speed of some key elements is not good at all.

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Lynx 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 20:02:16
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@ikir

Okay, despite what I wrote in the other "clue #2" thread, I think I will trust you again. I just can't refrain my enthousiasm.

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Jorge 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
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@minator

That's interessting (expecially the non FPU stuff). An x8 PCIe is tempting, though. Full bandwith into gfx mem and than let the graphics chip do the work.

But still, no FPU might be an issue. The PDA demo ran an AmigaOS4 without FPU, didn't it ?
So basically, that is possible, yes ?

Does anyone know, what SoftFPU performance that chip would deliver (compared with a real FPU) ?

Oh, what I just saw. The SP(e)s have a way faster mem bus DDR1/2-667 (instead DDR-266/DDR1/2-333 at the EP(x)).

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Legion 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 20:35:17
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@Herewegoagain

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Still, it would make a really nice entry level Amiga.


667mhz is perfect! You could power it with a 60w PSU, and still have plenty of power to browse, listen to oggs, check e-mail and probably even watch a divx movie, however if you buy this sweet little machine you won't need to. Oh, and it plays xvid quite well too!

Now, if they can get to that 'sweet spot' in the price range. $400 US, including OS4, and I'd call my order in tomorrow.

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Dagon 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:41:17
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Just one question:
Is it possible to buy one in Pianeta Amiga?

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TheDaddy 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:44:53
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@Dagon

And I would add:

Can you buy it with OS4? Otherwise what the heck am I going to install on it?

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AmigaBlitter 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:45:14
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@thread

The power of a computer system, in not strictly tied to the processor only. Many other factors come in game. The processors is an important piece, yes, but the way the other components work and operate all together is important too.





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Reth 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:50:14
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Hmpf!

If it will be true what is assumed here (low end processor, low end GFX, both hardwired, no expansion possibilities for GFX and processor [due to lack of modern GFX-Busses? Don't know although I checked the specs of that CPU]) I'm more than disappointed!

IMHO AOS4 does not need underpowered hardware if it will be used as a Desktop OS with users hoping for software that will use more resources (like more modern 3D games, viewing movies, DVD etc. at fullscreen and normal speed w/o freezing the computer, and so on)!

I can only hope that this board won't be so underpowered as it seems now and if so that there will please be another alternative for AOS4 with better HW-premises!

Now I'm frustrated!

For me a PegII would be a perfect entry level HW for AOS4 which can be used for another 2 years or so!

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Dagon 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 21:52:37
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I'm very excited At last I'm going to get an AmigaOS 4.0 machine

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TheDaddy 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:01:14
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@Reth

Go buy a PegasosII then, who is stopping you?

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Reth 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:02:19
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@TheDaddy

As I told in other threads (or tried to express here):

Me stopping from bying a PegII: The not-availability of AOS4 for it!!!

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AmigaBlitter 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:06:30
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@Reth

I think, however, that Samantha will be a suprise for you.

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PulsatingQuasar 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:09:00
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@AmigaBlitter

Based on the Peg2 motherboard? It is a Peg2?

This suspence is killing me!

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TheDaddy 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:12:42
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@Reth

Forget the pegII, soon you'll meet Sam, your new Amiga

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Reth 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:17:10
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@AmigaBlitter

Hopefully you'll be right!

I'm rather pessimistic here!

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Reth 
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Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:18:20
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@TheDaddy

We'll see.. (two more weeks - as usual?)

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PulsatingQuasar 
Re: New hardware clue number 2
Posted on 8-Sep-2006 22:20:27
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But seriously.

I have no reservations with regard to new OS 4 hardware being developed and endup in working prototypes. I have reservations with regard to 2 things.

1. Cost. For me that is not such a big deal but for others is;
2. Manufacturing speed. I think that the succes of the new Amiga and OS 4.0 is directly linked to the availibilty of hardware. If a person decides he wants an Amiga he should have it WITHIN 1 month( actually I think this should be 2 weeks). What I'm afraid of is that the new hardware developers may not find/have the channels that are able to provide new motherboards within a snap.
So either stock should be kept on a high level which is probably not possible or there should be a hardware manufacturer that can quickly produce hundreds of those motherboards with in days after the order has been placed.

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