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How many times has someone complained about wanting somethig, hardware as well as software, and been told if you don't like it do something about it yourself. Here is someone offering to do it for you. If it is too much do it yourself. Doesn't seem like such a large amount anymore.
The only thing I dislike about the whole thing is if you contribute to this bounty and it doesn't come about you have been forced into contributing to a bounty that you were not interested in in the first place. Money should be returned.

Stew

@stew

The price is high, but it will be worth it if we all chip in. We're going to help enable Amigas future. If the next OS4 machines can browse the web nice, it'll be a big selling point!

I intend to make multiple donations when finances allow! I'm glad the heavy hitters are plonking big amounts in, to help make up for the low number of donators so far. :)

@jahc

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The price is high

Considering what the community gets, the time involved to do this, and the low level of enthusiasm for the AOS 4.0 platform the programmer has I disagree.

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If the next OS4 machines can browse the web nice, it'll be a big selling point!

"Next OS4 machines". That would be cool. Short of hobbyists it would not be a selling point, it would be an assumed requirement I think. Of course either way it will be good to have. And the more useful apps the community pays for, the more likely the possibility that Amiga Inc. will notice the free R&D they are getting and want to start granting licenses.

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@fairlanefastback

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Considering what the community gets, the time involved to do this, and the low level of enthusiasm for the AOS 4.0 platform the programmer has I disagree.

The time involved? How long do you think its going to take?

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"Next OS4 machines". That would be cool. Short of hobbyists it would not be a selling point, it would be an assumed requirement I think. Of course either way it will be good to have.

Thats what I meant. You cant sell a machine that cant do the web nicely.

Marcik is NOT going to do an OS4 port of Sputnik, so forget it. Sputnik will be an official component of MOS 1.5 once released.

@hatty

I was under the impression that Sputnik was a freeware closed source program, which Marcik himself had control over (the port from linux anyway), so that statement makes no sense (unless I am misinformed)

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@hatty

Nice bit of FUD!! Care to substantiate those claims?

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@Akiko

you should not base a bounty on "impressions" and assumptions. ask him yourself

@hatty

Who cares if Sputnik is going to be included with MorphOS 1.5 (apart from the MOS users)?

I doubt you have any saying as to what platforms Marcin will support, so please stop your FUD or show me some evidence that he won't do the port. I would like that evidence to be newer than the 15+ emails I have from Marcin where we discussed the OS4 port.

@Jahc

Multiple donations, what a nice idea Pay day is not that far away, I might donate some more myself then.

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@d0c

yes its fair... pay and give the man what he wants!... getting things free like from aminet back in the old days are over. if we want to keep amiga alive its pay or die... its as simple as that...

And by that you mean we should throw our money blindly, otherwise the Amiga dies?
Sorry, but I don't agree. I reserve myself the right to chose what projects I want to support. I'm a registered Pagestream and Imagine3D user, for example. I also paid for the excellent DVPlayer.
This "Sputnik" thing has been widely talked about. Seems the intention to port is not very big. And saying that if the fee is not reached, money will be piped to "other projects" just doesn't do it for me.

The Amiga needs support, but not blind support.

By the way, I hope "Sputnik" gets indeed ported. Any additional software is good for the platform. I just don't like the conditions imposed(even though I respect them and wholly agree that Marcik has the obvious right to impose them).

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@BrandonLee

No one should pay blindly for anything (although it would make things a lot easier).

If you would like to see Sputnik for OS4 you should consider donating but not more than what you can afford to loose as there's no guarantee we will reach the needed amount.

The reason I don't do a return of the money (my decision not Marcin's) is that I want this bounty to do something good for the community whether we get Sputnik ported or not. The only guarantee I can give you as an OS4 user is that they will benefit development of OS4 applications and that I will listen to all suggestions about who to donate to.

But I hope this is not relevant and think we will reach the target in time.

Btw If you don't donate now (really hope you will change your mind) I hope you do it later if you chose to use Sputnik.

Best rgrds
Troels

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I appreciate your activity Troels. Thank you.

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@AmiKit and Troels

Let me make it clear that I too admire Troels activities in helping the Amiga community.
I just don't (totally) agree with this particular bounty.

@BrandonLee

What bounty do you want to see and suport?

For this dont have to be the last bounty.

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@jahc

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The time involved? How long do you think its going to take?

I don't think paying the man $150 USD an hour and assuming 26 hours of work is unreasonable.

Hobbies cost money. Advancement of what you can do with your hobby costs money.

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@ll

I've used AWeb almost exclusively. I love
the speed and stability. I purchased IBrowse
when it came out to have the extra capability
it offered. Then it came included with OS4
Final, albeit in slightly reduced form.

It's not really about the money for me, it's
about having a fast responsive machine that
makes the most of its resources and having
applications that engender that.

Sputnik meets the bill.

I'm glad that Marcin has such a thick skin.
Really, I'm embarrassed by the bickering.
My 10 Euro's is in the pot, no conditions
attached. I'll probably double and triple
that amount in the future.

You all have the offer. Take it or leave it.
As the policeman said, " Nothing happening
here, move on". It's not really up for debate.

@kindergip

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I'm glad that Marcin has such a thick skin. Really, I'm embarrassed by the bickering.

Amazingly thick if you ask me, certain Polish users have gone totally apeshit over this and attack him all the time.

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@Akiko

why would winuae users donate for a browser when they have iexplorer close to the mouse

@lionstorm

So winuae users don't have to do precisely that!

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@lionstorm

Anyone still using IE should be shot. There's simply no excuse for using that piece of filth that degrades the web for everyone (including themselves).