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painter 
Yam Nightly problem SOLVED
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 2:18:24
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Hello just installed the latest yam nightly from http://www.yam.ch/27.html and all the attending mui updates. Now when I start yam it blinks on and off the screen so fast I can barely see it happen! Snoopy doesn't show any errors in loading yam. last line in snoopy is yam :o.k. =open("env:mui/YAM.prefs", NEW) =[0x1AC4E2AC]

anyone else have problems with this version?


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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 9:05:17
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@painter

I may be way out but here goes -

I just downloaded the March 27 compile and tried it. It loads
OK. I looked through the snoopy log and found these lines quite
early in loading. I've quoted a few around the point in question
to help with finding them:

0052 : ENV : FAIL = Lock("ENVARC:MultipleYAM",SHARED)
0053 : YAM : o.k. = Open("Work:Comms/YAM/YAM.info",OLD) = [0x1B63F4C8]
0054 : YAM : o.k. = Lock("env:mui/YAM.prefs",SHARED)
0055 : YAM : o.k. = Open("env:mui/YAM.prefs",OLD) = [0x1B63F4C8]
0056 : YAM : o.k. = Open("PROGDIR:.emailcache",OLD) = [0x1B63F4C8]
0057 : YAM : o.k. = Lock("env:mui/PublicScreens.iff",SHARED)
0058 : YAM : o.k. = Open("env:mui/PublicScreens.iff",OLD) = [0x1B63F4C8]

The mailer is doing a bit of wrapping here but note the OLD even though
the yam.prefs is written every time I exit YAM . I don't know if this will
help but you can try deleting env:mui/yam.prefs and the same in
DH0:Prefs/Env-Archive/MUI/

When next you try to load YAM a message may come up saying texteditor keybindings are incompatible so they have been temporarily reset to default etc.

Have you installed the latest mui classes?

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painter 
Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:03:41
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@NoelFuller

installed all the latest mui classes. will try deleting thiose items.

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Framiga 
Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:14:32
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@painter

do you have codesets.library installed? (not sure if required under AOS4)





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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:22:10
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@Framiga

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do you have codesets.library installed? (not sure if required under AOS4)

It is.
But Yam dev throws out requesters regarding codesets.libarary and MUI indicating current versions needed (if lacking) before it will even start.
His black screen must be coming from something else.

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:27:06
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@Framiga

yes I have codesets.library. I tried those deletions and it made no difference.

@number6 I run yam on owrkbench pub scereen and what ahppens it pops up gives you the message about being a developer version and the you click ok and the yam splash window flicks in an out of existance. I can see that it doesnot show the bar for login password as usual bbefore it disappears.


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Framiga 
Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:28:03
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@number6

if he used a separated screen for YAM, probably deleting the "DH0:Prefs/Env-Archive/MUI/YAM.prefs" could help (like NoelFuller suggested)

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:32:47
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@painter

In case you have an MPEGA datatype installed, please disable this one and try again after a reboot. There exist MPEGA datatypes with a broken descriptor which wrongly detects PNG images as MPEG streams, which makes YAM quit immediately. A recent change to the image loading functions revealed this bug in the MPEGA descriptor. So far the only solution is to disable the MPEGA datatype completely.

To make sure the correct behaviour try to load ALL images in the Icons directory with MultiView. Each of these must correctly show up as an image.

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 15:35:19
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@painter

When did this behavior first become noticeable?
What have you installed since YAM dev last worked for you?

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 21:40:25
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@number6

nothing new installed since previous version of yam.

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 21:44:30
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@tboeckel
They all load fine in picshow haven't tried multiview.

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Framiga 
Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 21:47:37
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@painter

are you saying that the previous YAM2.5dev worked?

http://nightly.yam.ch/2007-03-26-dev/YAM25dev-AmigaOS4.lha



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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 21:52:13
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@Framiga

Yes it worked fine. Just the pone I downloaded yesterday didn;'t work but of course I down loaded new because the time was up and to use yam I had to update.

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Framiga 
Re: Yam Nightly problem
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@painter

have you copied the Icons folder also? there are some new icons inside required for the few latest versions..

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 22:19:07
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@painter

ok. Confirmed. I see it here too.
Reason I didn't catch it earlier, is that my dev version doesn't expire for a couple of weeks yet.
Latest, Tuesday, March 27, 2006 even with the complete icon package (2 more files) is not starting.

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 22:54:28
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@Framiga

yep copied all the icons

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Posted on 27-Mar-2007 22:58:18
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@painter

Quote:

painter wrote:
@tboeckel
They all load fine in picshow haven't tried multiview.

painter


Picshow showing them is not important. It may have it's own png decoder.

You should use multiview to check the icons, because multiview uses datatypes and if some thing is wrong with the datatypes, you can notice. The same flaw in datatypes can crash Yam.

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
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@number6

seen that Thore (one of the YAM dev) is reading this report, he/they will fix it.



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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 27-Mar-2007 23:13:26
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@Framiga

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seen that Thore (one of the YAM dev) is reading this report, he/they will fix it.

Thanks.
Just to close this out, the two new icons were folder_trash and folder_trash_new.
Both were ok under multiview.

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Re: Yam Nightly problem
Posted on 28-Mar-2007 9:34:28
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@Framiga

A proper bug report in the YAM bug tracker would be better in any way.

Please don't expect that either Jens or me are going through all active forums just to look if someone has a problem with YAM.

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