@fairlanefastback


lol, OS5 you say? Give me a break!

Anyway, I agree with most you say but in a more mild way.

Amiga and ACK made a joint announcement for OS4 powered computers. This might appear critical in the court if Hyperion decides to plays the same game as Amiga Inc did towards the Hyperion and ACube agreement.

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Maybe it is about time we ban this guy from both the forums and the chat?
At least then we wont have to be feed anymore lies...

@Cool_amigaN

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Amiga and ACK made a joint announcement for OS4 powered computers. This might appear critical in the court if Hyperion decides to plays the same game as Amiga Inc did towards the Hyperion and ACube agreement.

Actually they don't say what Amiga OS version it will run in any of the press releases. So because of that, again, ACK (nor Amiga Delaware) has anything to fear from Hyperion on this front. Also additionally ACK has no contract with Hyperion that it could be violating. Let ACK clear the air to us if he can then, again I still feel its very simple for him to do if he was originally being truthful.

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@Tomas
I am against banning ACK - that would remove his ability to refute claims that he lied.

(Well, unless it is *proved* that most of his promises were false - rather than just due to incredibly bad judgement.)


P.S. I am not contradicting my earlier post: On the facts we know, I can only conclude he was (probably) being intentionally dishonest. But that is not proof, since it is based on circumstantial evidence. And as fairlanefastback says, if he is genuine then he can prove us wrong anytime he wants.

P.P.S. If he is worried about being torn to shreds, like Troika's fuzzy pictures were, then he need only describe what he intends to produce (in some detail) - and get everyone's agreement that those would be sufficient proof, before actually showing those pictures.

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@ChrisH

His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was).

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Yes, so he says. I would be more inclined to believe him, if he had ever provided an ounce of proof of his projects being real - or if his bad luck had been less well timed at preventing the showing of such proof (i.e. the infamous pictures).

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@Tomas

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Tomas wrote: Maybe it is about time we ban this guy from both the forums and the chat? At least then we wont have to be feed anymore lies...

ehhhhhh! calm down! if they had to ban all those who lies, amigaland would be a desert!

take it easy man

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@ChrisH

There is irrefutable proof that he lied. He claimed something was in production and would go on sale while certain parts of it did not even exist at the time (the A1200 connectors). That was over a year and a half ago.

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@fairlanefastback

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fairlanefastback wrote: @Cool_amigaN Quote: Amiga and ACK made a joint announcement for OS4 powered computers. This might appear critical in the court if Hyperion decides to plays the same game as Amiga Inc did towards the Hyperion and ACube agreement. Actually they don't say what Amiga OS version it will run in any of the press releases. So because of that, again, ACK (nor Amiga Delaware) has anything to fear from Hyperion on this front. Also additionally ACK has no contract with Hyperion that it could be violating. Let ACK clear the air to us if he can then, again I still feel its very simple for him to do if he was originally being truthful.

Although in the press release this is not clarified properly, ACK has stated clearly in an IRC session, as you might know already, that the machines are designed for OS4. Also the specs imply for this; PPC cpu.. what else can it be if not OS4?

But I like your kind of thinking; since they haven't stated what AOS version will it run he might have a chance to show it off!

I think this can be a valid excuse if Hyperion drags them to court. But then again why risk everything two months before completion (according to ACK) for the low-end system?

Anyway, you, me and hounders of others like us will be propaby here by the end of summer and then we will know for sure.

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@Framiga

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Framiga wrote: @Tomas Quote: Tomas wrote: Maybe it is about time we ban this guy from both the forums and the chat? At least then we wont have to be feed anymore lies... ehhhhhh! calm down! if they had to ban all those who lies, amigaland would be a desert! take it easy man

But the thing is that amigaworld ban other trolls, so why not ack? I dont think he needs special treatment.
I think all these lies and promises has done alot of harm to the whole community, which is much worse than the average troll achieves.

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@Tomas

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But the thing is that amigaworld ban other trolls, so why not ack? I dont think he needs special treatment. I think all these lies and promises has done alot of harm to the whole community, which is much worse than the average troll achieves.

But OTOH, just think of all the entertainment that he brought to us, all those exciting IRC-sessions where all those great products were announced? How else could certain community members have endured the dry spell if it wasn't for Troikas and ACKs announcements?
I'm not saying that it is any different at the moment though...

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His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was).

I don't believe for one minute his father was really ill and i certainly do not believe he is deceased, Adam must be one pretty sick individual to use those type of excuses to get out of providing proof. Those excuses where so perfectly timed that they look well iffy..

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I think we should stop putting pressure on him.

I think we should put more pressure on him. He is making fools out of the Amiga community, you might like it but i certainly don't and i am fed up of two bit jokers making announcements which are just outright lies.

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@glittering

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glittering wrote: Quote: His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was). I don't believe for one minute his father was really ill and i certainly do not believe he is deceased, Adam must be one pretty sick individual to use those type of excuses to get out of providing proof. Those excuses where so perfectly timed that they look well iffy.. Quote: I think we should stop putting pressure on him. I think we should put more pressure on him. He is making fools out of the Amiga community, you might like it but i certainly don't and i am fed up of two bit jokers making announcements which are just outright lies.

It would seem to me that we as a community lay down a bit too easily when it comes to people not fulfilling promises. I think its partly born out of some wanting so badly something new that they dare not "piss off" the person, even if they don't think its likely they are being truthful. They figure, I think, "why take the chance"? I think instead we should band together and not allow ourselves to be treated that way. We aren't asking for anything complicated here to prove he is being truthful.

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ehhhhhh! calm down! if they had to ban all those who lies, amigaland would be a desert!

Word...

@glittering

You are going to die an early death if you don't get your anger under control.

There are plenty of other people with the same feelings as you have, but no one else is spitting out quite the insults which you are doing.

Learn to converse in a civilized manner.

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@fairlanefastback

Exactly. These people are so desperate for something to appear that they will believe anyone and turn on people who are negative, it has gotten worse over the years. People have been burnt again and again but are still happy to brown nose and give the idiots more ammunition to burn them more and more. These people are so frightened of offending hoaxers that they will degrade themselves to the extent of looking desperate and (yet again) show the world the Amiga community has lost its backbone.

@Moxee

There is no insults there but strong opinions. I just stated that i think his father was used as an excuse to avoid being exposed as a hoaxer.

@glittering

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His father died a short time after that illness (whatever it was). I don't believe for one minute his father was really ill and i certainly do not believe he is deceased, Adam must be one pretty sick individual to use those type of excuses to get out of providing proof. Those excuses where so perfectly timed that they look well iffy..

Would you like to see the death certificate........edited as per moderator request.


Adam

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@glittering

Ever heard of the term "libel" ? Now, I suggest you follow the requests Moxee Tomazkid, and _Steve_ made. Consider this a second (final, see TOS) warning then.

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@ackcontrls

My condolences to you and your family.

I do ask you kindly to edit your post and not to get down to that level please.

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@ackcontrls

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Would you like to see the death certificate........edited as per moderator request.

No but i would like to see proof that you have actually products to release rather than the usual carrot dangling. As for the other part of that comment, that was absolutely hilarious, thanks and i hope no mods remove it..


(Edited to match the edited quote /tomazkid)

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