Fu*k!! Seems like this new upgrade made ps3 even less usable.. I just read about people who are having problem with using media centre software with it. It just stops playing back after around 30mins for no damn reason. I just tried it myself, and it stopped at 35mins of playback of a xvid, even though it worked perfectly when i watched a movie a couple of hours ago.
Other people having same problem:

http://forums.tversity.com/viewtopic.php?t=7913

Last edited by Tomas on 08-Nov-2007 at 09:16 PM.

Ubisoft president doesn't believe one is harder to develop for than the other
Yves Guillemot, president and CEO of Ubisoft, has stated his belief that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 are very close in terms of what is possible from a development perspective.

He told the BMO Capital Markets conference yesterday that the two next-generation machines were "close in what we can do with them" and that while the PS3 has some elements that are better, the Xbox 360 has other advantages.

Additionally he explained that in Ubisoft's experience, translating a game from the Xbox 360 platform to the PS3 took no extra effort than doing it the other way around.

"What we do now is create for the PS3 and 360 at the same time, and it doesn't cost more than 10 per cent extra to develop for the other machine.

"Before it was costing us more, about 20 per cent, just because it was difficult to learn the PS3 hardware, but now our engines are done and we can easily develop for both machines."

The company's chief financial officer, Alain Martinez, added some more detail on the cost of production and potential profits between the next-gen platforms and the Nintendo DS, which the company has been continuing to support heavily.

He explained that while titles for the Xbox 360 and PS3 might sell for around EUR 11 more than DS titles, they cost EUR 15-17 million to produce compared to an average of about EUR 500,000 for a DS game.

That means that while the company only needs to sell around 100,000 units to hit its average 22 per cent margin on direct costs for DS games, it needs to sell around 1.3 million for the same result with a next-gen game - even though gross margins on the DS are 6 per cent lower than for next-gen titles.

*** I think the last point is a developer backing my view. Games for the consoles are more expensive to develop for. Since there's no clear winner having to develop for both Xbox360 and PS3 is going to be more mandatory. Those PS3 only games are going to be harder to make a profit on because there's less consoles sold and less games selling per console on the market.

@MikeB
What does the new firmware do? Better video playback i hope?
I was forced to upgrade just a moment ago, but have not tested the console out yet.

@MikeB

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Not many, all first and second party games are still exclusive to the PS3.

What Sony kept their own games on the PS3?

Some big names are now on the 360 and were considered Sony PS3 must have games or at one time announced PS3 only. : Ace Combat, Armored Core, GTA IV, Fatal Inertia, Assassin's Creed, DMC4, Virtual Fighter 5, Katamari, Guitar Hero, UT3, Dynasty Warriors, Mercenaries 2

Kutagari had good relations with developers. It seems this was likely not held onto by him and or relinquished by Sony. Ubi-soft, Take-Two relations to the 360 are because Microsoft called them up and established the relationship. That's important. Having 2x the console count and a user base that's more willing to spend money on games (read more games per console sold) are encouraging factors for companies to go multiplatform.

Some info on Take2 : http://blog.wired.com/games/2006/11/how_sony_lost_g.html

@Samwel

I like the new firmware update, I have tons of 80s music videos, photos and MP3 stored on my PS3.

Some themes currently available:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8531077&postcount=19

As an Amigan of course I love theme support as well. Sony is working on various new additions, they recently polled user priorities such as in-game custom music support and other expanded in-game OS functionalities like messaging.

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@BrianK

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It shows already the PS3 has lost thier exclusivity on many titles.

Not many, all first and second party games are still exclusive to the PS3. The GTA series was never a 3rd party Playstation exclusive to begin with, I know this because I have San Andreas installed on my PC and once owned the first title in the series for the PC as well (GTA games were released for the Dreamcast, Gameboy Color and Advance and XBox). Monster Hunter 3, a game new to me was recently announced to move to the Wii, combined with an excuse that developing a more advanced PS3 version would be too costly. I don't buy their reasoning considering the PS2 still has by far the biggest userbase amongst gamers and most PS3 owners have backward compatibility. Probably it's just a behind the scenes deal with Nintendo and they just make up excuses not to anger their fanbase.

But Capcom has always been known as a multiplatform games publisher, they even released many (so so) games for the Amiga!

@Lou

Very bad news for me then...

@Samwel

Not much different between the 2 games. Cross platformers, like this, are bound to be comparable. And yes I agree nothing to argue about. But, really that's the problem. The PS3 is this uber game machine but if the games don't show it, what's the point?

I have great hope for 2008 PS3 games, we'll see how the developers do. As a developer there isn't a clear winner like the PS2 was. Cross platform will be needed to sell as many copies of the game as there was in the last gen. It shows already the PS3 has lost thier exclusivity on many titles.

@Lou

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Lou wrote: @BrianK I own ~20 Wii games...though mostly I play World of Warcraft... Hardware in Japan: Nintendo DS - 76,273 PSP - 59,792 Wii - 27,502 PlayStation 3 - 18,785 PlayStation 2 - 11,698 Xbox 360 - 3,718 Game Boy Micro – 64 GameCube – 58 Game Boy Advance SP - 41 The 360 seems to be over 3000 consistently now...hmmm... Japanese top 30 for last week: 01. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: The Sealed Grimoire (DS) - 142,000 / New 02. Ar Tonelico II: Sekai ni Hibiku Shoujo Tachi (PS2) - 72,000 / New 03. World Soccer Winning Eleven DS Goal x Goal! (DS) - 29,000 / New 04. Imabikisou (PS3) - 23,000 / New 05. DS Bungaku Zenshuu (DS) - 21,000 / 54,000 06. Code Geass: Hangyaku no Lelouch (DS) - 20,000 / New 07. Ghost Squad (Wii) - 20,000 / New 08. God of War II (PS2) - 17,000 / New 09. DS Nishimura Kyotaro Suspense Shin Tantei Series: Kyoto Atami Zekkai no Kotou - Satsui no Wana (DS) - 17,000 / 98,000 10. Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Time Expedition Party (DS) - 16,000 / 537,000 ... Next week, look for Ace Combat 6 on the 360 to give Super Mario Galaxy a run for it's money. 360 hardware sales will look nice too...

Hey, I was close! Let's wait for the hardware sales...

Last edited by Lou on 08-Nov-2007 at 02:24 PM.

(Last week's rank) This week. Platform - Title - Publisher - This week's sales (Total sales) - Weeks on sale

01. Wii - Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 251,000 (NEW)
02. 360 - Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation (Bandai Namco) - 77,000 (NEW)
03. NDS - Final Fantasy Tactics A2 (Square Enix) - 51,000 (193,000) - 2nd week
04. PS2 - Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander the 2nd (Banpresto) - 21,000 (NEW)
05. NDS - DS Literature Collection (Nintendo) - 18,000 (72,000) - 3rd week
06. NDS - DS Nishimura Kyotarou Suspense Detective Series: Deadly Intent (Tecmo) - 18,000 (115,000) - 4th week
07. Wii - Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 16,000 (2,182,000) - 49th week
08. NDS - Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (Nintendo) - 15,000 (676,000) - 23rd week
09. NDS - World Soccer Winning Eleven DS - Goal x Goal! (Konami) - 15,000 (44,000) - 2nd week
10. NDS - Pokemon Fushigi no Dungeon: Toki no Tankentai (Nintendo) - 14,000 (552,000) - 8th week

...from www.gamesarefun.com

Ace combat 6 FTW! Wow. Just - wow.
I wonder how many weeks SMG will be at the top of the charts. It seems Nintendo's been having production problems(shortages) with all Wii software. Interestingly, one American retailer has already broken the street date on SMG...atleast that explains why Japan didn't get more copies... I think Japanese developers are losing faith in their own country on generating sales... So instead they go with a smaller stream of consistent small production quantities to meet the demand over a longer period of time.

Ofcourse, 3rd parties have been complaining about shelf space because they can't get enough copies of their games produced compared to 1st party titles. Reggie says this will change within the next 2 or 3 weeks... I wonder if the real problem with making more Wii hardware had been that they couldn't sustain larger software sales so they held back hardware production until the ability to physically produce more boxed software became possible. It's my theory anyway.

Comments from Edios about Nintendo 3rd party software:http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=30408

I went to Walmart this week to pick up 4 or 5 Wii games that have been released within the last month and came out with only 2: Batallion Wars 2 and Fire Emblem:Radiant Dawn. Both Nintendo titles. However I was also looking for Victorious Boxers, Manhunt 2, Zack & Wiki...all 3rd party titles, nothing on the shelf. However, multiple copies of all 1st party titles were available.

That's a problem. A Nintendo factory has to print the discs because they contain a barcode on the inner clear ring of the disc, just like Gamecube discs. Other than that, they are standard DVD-5 media. Nintendo needs to be able to produce more discs for 3rd party software. Period.

@Lou

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Belgian retailers are reporting a 40% failure rate with 40GB PS3's! http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/40-percent-of-40gb-ps3s-are-defective-320265.php

Highly unlikely and completely off-topic.

But since this thread has been destroyed anyways, go right ahead. :)

Last edited by jtsiren on 08-Nov-2007 at 01:41 PM.

Rumor!

Belgian retailers are reporting a 40% failure rate with 40GB PS3's!
http://kotaku.com/gaming/rumor/40-percent-of-40gb-ps3s-are-defective-320265.php

Perhaps this should be a new thread...

Finally found a Xbox 360 Falcon Premium. I would've preferred a Halo 3 edition, but no Halo Falcon's were to be found and new supplies were forthcoming so I took the plunge.

I made a picture of the key differentiators to identify Falcon:



I will save my launchbox as a spare.

MikeB would be happy to know that the new power cable is less rigid and using HDMI one can get rid of the bulky A/V cable as well. Still the power supple there though, but even that is more lightweight.

Two other people in Finnish console forums said that they also got lot 735 FDOU Falcons (2007.08.30), so that lot seems like a good bet. (Although on a U.K. forum I seem to remember someone reporting a machine from that lot/team not being a Falcon.)

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What a fiasco.

Non of the new features is in the top 10 wanted features list.
Why call it 2.00???

I really hope there's something under the hood that will show itself
during the next few updates...

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So we got v2.00 of the firmware for PS3 today. Nice!

The only thing I have noticed that's different is Themes and network menu.
I'll have to log in and check the detailed new features.

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@BrianK

I guess it'll be here anytime now.

Btw what differences did you notice?
I read some of the comments and viewed the clip again. After that I noticed
some small differences. Nothing to argue about IMO. They (will) both look good
I think.

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@Samwel

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Hmm what is it that I'm looking for? They seemed alike.

You had mentioned you don't have experience comparing games. There are sites like that where games can be compared. It's a bit sad it's the intro but I believe it's still rendered. The gunfight in the first video is actual game play. Very comparable.

Released? CoD4 it came out in the USA on Tuesday. Not sure when Sweden gets it.

@BrianK

Hmm what is it that I'm looking for?
They seemed alike. Very small differences with this low quality video.
Maybe more rain and some more effects on the PS3. But not much.
We'll have to wait and see when it's released.

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@Samwel

Home Theater freaks are cool. I've got my systems run through a Marantz receiver and Paradigm 11 speakers.

www.vgchartz.com collects stats from around the world. They're not the most accurate at times. NPD collect US stats and frequently vgchartz has to make corrections when companies with more industry depth and data accuracy release their numbers. But, after this is done NPD does track history well enough. VGChartz website stability is a bit flaky.

360 vs PS3 Call of Duty 4 video: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=175122

@BrianK

Yeah but you would buy atleast one title to show it off.. I would think.
But as you say, if used as a movie player only..

I'm very satisfied with my PS3 upto now. Plays Blu-Ray absolutely great on my
LCD. DVD's are played atleast as nice (if not better) as my Pioneer DVD which
has built-in 1080p upscale. CD playback is much better than my Pioneer.

But in difference to Tomas and you I have no real comparison regarding games
on consoles. My brother has a PS2, but have only ever played one game on it.
On my PC I have played 2-3 games, ever. I'm impressed by almost anything that
moves in 3D. As long as the graphics doesn't jerk or the sound stutter. I'm
VERY sensitive to quality of graphics and sound. I probably get that from being
a home theater freak.

Btw do you have access to any recent sales figures for PS3? In Sweden atleast
it seems the PS3 40GB has been a major success.

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