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Samwel 
Re: Mass failing of XBox 360, buyers beware! For UK alone 1500-2500 a day
Posted on 20-Nov-2007 7:51:43
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@MikeB

Maybe you could explain how to get media streaming to work with PS3 and Windows XP Pro?

I uninstalled TVersity because it started to act.. badly! But Windows Media Player is behaving
even worse.. In some cases.. Speed of streaming being the most annoying thing.
TVersity got unconnected all the time.. I don't know if this has to do with 2.0x?

But I have serious problems getting the streaming working fully. I have no problem with PS3
finding a media server. But all my files aren't found and the playback is halted in mid play.

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@BrianK

Quote:
As mentioned before you seem to have an inability to discuss the abstract.


IMO my 2 minute researched comment already contained more valuable information than you had given. My comment was geared towards helping people to solve the problem, despite I'm not interested in the game myself.

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@BrianK, MikeB

2.01 is released.

Seems like a large update.. It takes a long time to download.. Or the server is busy..

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Re: Mass failing of XBox 360, buyers beware! For UK alone 1500-2500 a day
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@BrianK

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Truly the best way to test an interface is try and use them.


True, very true.

But by the looks of it it seems just like Windows.. Color colors and more colors
A glossy outside to hide the dark inside maybe?

Kidding aside.. It looks nice, very different from PS3 indeed. I'll have to try it out some day.

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Re: Mass failing of XBox 360, buyers beware! For UK alone 1500-2500 a day
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@Samwel

Early release of the GUI. It's mostly similiar now a few more blades. Each colored background can be replaced by different images from themes.

Babylon 5 Theme for a theme based on a show which at one time used the Amiga/Toaster. You can search around the area and see different backdrop themes.

Truly the best way to test an interface is try and use them.

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@BrianK

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Rumors I've read on v2.01 it fixes various issues introduced in v2.00.


The Sony blog said "it fixes stability of the PS3". More info would come later.

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@MikeB

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It appears Assassin's Creed on the PS3 has a small incompatibility issue with the latest firmware update, disabling the newsfeed apparently solves the problem. The next firmware update should solve the problem for this game.

As mentioned before you seem to have an inability to discuss the abstract.

Now back to the literal we'll see IF the new firmware fixes this. Rumors I've read on v2.01 it fixes various issues introduced in v2.00.

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@BrianK

Is there any stills (or video) of the 360 GUI around? Maybe you have a link or two?

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@Samwel

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The PS3 GUI is done for a reason IMO. It must not clutter the screen when
you have previews of things the marker is on. Yes, they could probably have done it
differently.. But I like it.
Sony's talked about this in the past. The XMB was choosen because they desired a consistent interface across their devices. Newer TVs are similar in nature. Now that's not necessarily bad in itself. But, it is less optimal then an interface that's more specifically focused on the task. Again some love it. But, there definitely is room for improvement.

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@MikeB

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It appears Assassin's Creed on the PS3 has a small incompatibility issue with the latest firmware update, disabling the newsfeed apparently solves the problem. The next firmware update should solve the problem for this game.


Yes, I read the same thing on a swedish PS3 forum.

But same person said that it doesn't fix all AC's problems.. There seems to be some
bugs left in the game. Probably rushed out to early not wanting to miss the christmas
sales.

Btw there's a new firmware (2.01) out any day now. According to the Sony blog.
Maybe today?

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@Tomas

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Seems like xbox 360 has gotten yet another quality game with both good gameplay and graphics according to reviews..


The stills look great. What type of game is it? FPS? Action adventure?

You can only hope the stuff MikeB is mentioning isn't true. To maintain frame rate
is very important.. Even more so than exellent graphics IMO. Especially in high paced
action games.

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Posted on 19-Nov-2007 23:57:35
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@Lou

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a 24bit 1024x600 frame requires 1843200 bytes which is well within the limits of Wii's 2MB frame and Z buffer.

Trust me when I say their is a little more juice left in the Wii.


IMO there's no point in Nintendo cramming "more juice" out of Wii. It's better for
them to ride the wave as it is and focus on their next gen machine instead.
I don't think Wii sales will be the market leader in 2009. Maybe the bigger part of
2008 but then 360 and PS3 will take over.

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@BrianK

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Sony said DiVX is coming. As for Bitstream perhaps it'll come. I don't have high hopes. As for the PS3 OS GUI I'm very unsatisified. They copied the PSP which does work well. But, what's with 80% of my screen essentially empty? In the tech freak sense it's a poor design for 1080p.


Yes I read about DivX. It's probably coming for 360 aswell. I think I read that
somewhere.

They must add bitstream if they want PS3 to get certified for HDMI 1.3.
But I think they'll add DTS-HD decoding first anyway.

I disagree. The PS3 GUI is done for a reason IMO. It must not clutter the screen when
you have previews of things the marker is on. Yes, they could probably have done it
differently.. But I like it.
I haven't seen the 360 GUI so I can't compare these two. But a friend of mine owns
one so I will go and check it out. Maybe I'll like it more.

Quote:

I think rather then a lower price it needs games. I know you think the 60+ games is enough but sales will shine once Final Fantasy and other exclusives make it to the console.


Heh.. 60+ games is great if all are top games. But if only 10-15 of those are top
games then it's definitely a too small number. You need atleast 40-50 top games in
all game types to have real success. IMHO.

You took the "65 games is good enough" too much on the words..
65 games was/is good enough for ME, a small fish in the gaming world. I know very
well it's not enough for those that finishes a couple of games a month year round.

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Posted on 19-Nov-2007 23:25:09
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@Tomas

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I agree about Motorstorm.. The game seems more like a tech demo than a real game. I find Ridge Racer to be a much better game, even though it is pretty weak graphical wise when compared.


I must say that I was blown away with the graphics detail of MotorStorm myself.
You really must stop watching your own car once in while and just look at everything
around you. It's amazing really.
The game itself well.. I own a copy of the game. But I have only played it once.
It was quite fun the first couple of times but it isn't a game you play again and again
and again.. This is the case with Virtua Tennis 3 for me. Which I have played
almost every day now for a couple of weeks.

Ridge Racer (the demo) wasn't a game that I was that impressed with. Everything
felt unreal, also the graphics wasn't really that great. It felt like the game had no
challange.. Simply round and round every lap. Simply it wasn't for me.
I think there's a lot better driving games around.
Maybe online racing would make it more fun.. I don't know.

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@MikeB

Quote:

Quote:
think 540p is the sweet spot


Don't think so, 576p may well be a better choice as PAL TVs show 576 lines. Looking at the Wii's specs I wouldn't bother trying to aim higher to target HDTVs, it's not its strongpoint. Just concentrate on the Wii-mote and easy to digest games.


Lou meant using optimal upscaling to Full HD from 540 to 1080. 576 or 480 is
definitely worse in this case. Any even scalable number to 1080 is always going to
be best.

576 is of course the best resolution wise. But this wasn't Lou's point.

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@BrianK

It appears Assassin's Creed on the PS3 has a small incompatibility issue with the latest firmware update, disabling the newsfeed apparently solves the problem. The next firmware update should solve the problem for this game.

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@BrianK

Assassin's Creed wasn't designed specifically for the PS3. I haven't played the game yet, I'm not intending to buy the game neither. Opinions seem to differ with regard to the game's framerate.

Gamespot: "There are few differences between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions. PS3 owners are blessed with a slightly more solid frame rate"

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Posted on 19-Nov-2007 19:22:58
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1st party XBox 360 exclusive, but the framerate isn't that good.
Do you know if the problems are as severe as the Assassin's Creed issues on the PS3? The official game forums show frame rate problems, screen tearing, geometry clipping and game-stopping lock ups aka 'white screen of death'. Strange the 360 isn't displaying those issues. Clearly the 360 must be better.

So the question begs is what you are using to talk down a console a game developer problem or the console problem? If it's the former, which it likely is, there's potential a patch could fix the issues.

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Nintendo is now making 1.8 million Wii consoles per month!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/11/19/nintendo-cranking-out-1-8-million-wiis-per-month/

I am buying one for my parents for Christmas so they can play Wii Sports and keep their grandson(my nephew) entertained at the same time.

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@MikeB

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The XBox 360 interface does offer some nice looking colors, but considering customization is possible and that I use the console for media playback as well (MP3, my music videos and photos) I now prefer the PS3 GUI from the functionality perspective.
As you know I have both and using both. PS3 custom icons are 'nice' but overall the GUI on the PS3 loses. 360 does have custom backdrops and it's media playback interface is superior. No need to respond we'll simply have to agree to disagree.

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