Poster | Thread |
fairlanefastback
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 29-Jun-2007 22:06:54
| | [ #21 ] |
|
|
|
Team Member |
Joined: 22-Jun-2005 Posts: 4886
From: MA, USA | | |
|
| |
Status: Offline |
|
|
AmigaMac
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 29-Jun-2007 22:31:11
| | [ #22 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 26-Oct-2002 Posts: 1094
From: 3rd Rock from the Sun! | | |
|
| @Helge
I think the barrier of entry into the Amiga desktop market has increased due to Amiga Inc.'s spat with Hyperion and no real desktop support coming from Freescale and IBM in regards to PowerPC. I'm not sure of PA Semi's stance on the future of PPC desktop computing, but Freescale and IBM don't seem to care anymore. IBM is making boat loads in the game console market in the battle royal of Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft with Nintendo leading the pack (though behind the PS2 still).
Genesi is the only real hope of PPC hardware for the Amiga, but AOS4 isn't running on their stuff while MorphOS is questionable and AROS just being half baked currently.
The ONLY solution is going Intel (no not AMD, though I love their CPUs for x86 CPU tech), someone buyout Commodore and Amiga Inc. and aggressively partner with Intel, Google, etc... and build the new Amiga desktop meant for the true gamer in mind (just like the '80s market). Basically a hybrid desktop and game console combined in one!
YES, YES, PowerPC rocks, but the Amiga platform is not going anywhere as long as the pioneers of PowerPC ignore desktop computing and its potential in that space!!
And NO, I'm not on drugs _________________
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
herewegoagain
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 29-Jun-2007 23:33:39
| | [ #23 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 8-Jan-2003 Posts: 3270
From: Charlotte, NC | | |
|
| |
Status: Offline |
|
|
NoelFuller
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 1:49:10
| | [ #24 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 29-Mar-2003 Posts: 926
From: Auckland, New Zealand | | |
|
| @herewegoagain
So I asked the same question, the answer was Definitely I then asked if Amiga Inc will win the courtcase? Answer: ask again later
LOL
Noel
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
sundown
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 3:06:17
| | [ #25 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 30-Aug-2003 Posts: 5120
From: Right here... | | |
|
| @Helge
The only real answer is nobody knows, not even ack, but the man is determined to get it done or die trying. Adam was in a talking mood last night & I learned a few more things about his situation. He works a day job, so his h/w projects are done in his spare time. When asked about the cpu modules, he said all the testing was done & that he was trying to save the money up to do the first production run. If ack gets any monetary support from AI, I'm sure we'll see h/w. _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid... |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
wolfe
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 3:26:34
| | [ #26 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 18-Aug-2003 Posts: 1283
From: Under The Moon - Howling in the Blue Grass | | |
|
| @herewegoagain
Not very scientific. I asked the same questiom and got : Outlook not so good.
Will Hyperion win this court case : Maybe
Is amiga inc. the owner of the amiga ip : Definetly
will Hyperion win the amiga ip in court : Definetly
is amiga inc. a crook : maybe
is hyperion lying : definetly
will hyperion win there court case : definetly
Well, I think my tea leaves are more accurate . . . _________________ Avatar babe - Monica Bellucci. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
jahc
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 4:21:40
| | [ #27 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 30-May-2003 Posts: 2959
From: Auckland, New Zealand | | |
|
| @Helge
Quote:
Will both the low-end and the High-End Dual-Core PPC Amigas from ACK Software Control, in partnership with Amiga Inc, still be released as announced? |
We all know the problems surrounding any future Amigas, such as, will OS4 be ported to new hardware? but the bigger problem is will the hardware actually be completed? The ACube hardware is completed, so I think they stand a better chance of releasing an OS4 platform.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
jingof
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 4:31:55
| | [ #28 ] |
|
|
|
Regular Member |
Joined: 8-May-2007 Posts: 499
From: Jingo Fet is from "A Galaxy Far, Far Away" | | |
|
| @sundown
Ummm.. Are you joking? It just seems laughable to achieve all that he's promised in one person's spare time. I really thought such an ambitious hardware project was unrealistic for a team of one. But one person's spare time sounds even more unbelievable.
I'd love to be wrong and Adam succeed. Seriously want Adam to surprise us all! But if he pulls off two mobo designs and gets them through production in his spare time with money he's saved up, that would be nothing short of amazing to me.
Is this conversation with Adam in written form anywhere?
_________________ Vic-20, C-64, C-128 Amiga 1000, 3000 AmigaOne X1000 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
tomazkid
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 4:43:18
| | [ #29 ] |
|
|
|
Team Member |
Joined: 31-Jul-2003 Posts: 11694
From: Kristianstad, Sweden | | |
|
| @jahc
Quote:
We all know the problems surrounding any future Amigas, such as, will OS4 be ported to new hardware? but the bigger problem is will the hardware actually be completed? The ACube hardware is completed, so I think they stand a better chance of releasing an OS4 platform. |
True, and don't forget about the other PPC-hardware which is available either, the current the situation atm (and for the past few years) is just plain stupid._________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
jahc
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 4:54:11
| | [ #30 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 30-May-2003 Posts: 2959
From: Auckland, New Zealand | | |
|
| @jingof
Quote:
Ummm.. Are you joking? It just seems laughable to achieve all that he's promised in one person's spare time. I really thought such an ambitious hardware project was unrealistic for a team of one. But one person's spare time sounds even more unbelievable. |
Well its ambitious, but the PA Semi parts are SoC's I believe, so it may be on a similar level to what ACube developed. Note the PA Semi dev board was nearly identical to the specs ACK announced, so it sounds like hes not making many changes, or any major ones at least.
Also, I vaugely recall him saying a while ago that he wasnt doing the project by himself, but that he had 3-4 people working under him. But whether you believe that is up to you, I realise his credibility is kinda shot these days.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
fairlanefastback
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 5:04:44
| | [ #31 ] |
|
|
|
Team Member |
Joined: 22-Jun-2005 Posts: 4886
From: MA, USA | | |
|
| @jingof
Quote:
jingof wrote: @sundown
Ummm.. Are you joking? It just seems laughable to achieve all that he's promised in one person's spare time. I really thought such an ambitious hardware project was unrealistic for a team of one. But one person's spare time sounds even more unbelievable.
I'd love to be wrong and Adam succeed. Seriously want Adam to surprise us all! But if he pulls off two mobo designs and gets them through production in his spare time with money he's saved up, that would be nothing short of amazing to me.
Is this conversation with Adam in written form anywhere?
|
Hatschi found this previously which confirms the two jobs, which of the two was primary was not known until now though.
http://www.engineering.uwaterloo.ca/news/publications/WEAL49.pdf
from the .pdf (Sept. 2005)
Quote:
Adam Kowalczyk (Comp ‘94) says “after working at Honda of Canada, Mfg in Alliston, I went on to work for General Motors in St. Catharines. It was at GM where I learned more about crankshafts than any human should possibly need to know. During this time, Tammy and I had triplets, two girls and one boy. Kira Lee, Alexander Adam, and Sarah Jane came into our lives in 1999. In 2001, I left GM to start ACK Software Controls Inc. Recently, Tammy and I have purchased a Mail Boxes Etc. store in Welland just to make life a bit more challenging.” You can reach Adam at......
|
_________________ Pegasos2 G3 running AOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.0 Amikit user, tinkering with Icaros VM (AROS) EFIKA owner Amiga 1200 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
fairlanefastback
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 5:07:12
| | [ #32 ] |
|
|
|
Team Member |
Joined: 22-Jun-2005 Posts: 4886
From: MA, USA | | |
|
| @sundown
Quote:
sundown wrote: @Helge
The only real answer is nobody knows, not even ack, but the man is determined to get it done or die trying. Adam was in a talking mood last night & I learned a few more things about his situation. He works a day job, so his h/w projects are done in his spare time. When asked about the cpu modules, he said all the testing was done & that he was trying to save the money up to do the first production run. If ack gets any monetary support from AI, I'm sure we'll see h/w. |
The more we learn the more ridiculous a Summer 2007 release date for complete machines seems though. :(
Also its interesting isn't it, that Amiga, a company that had millions invested in it in 2005 from Prokom and that is working on a $10 million deal just for arena naming in Kent Washington. All these resources and they only choose ACK, a one man operation, working in his spare time, and additionally claim all will be ready so soon. Its an odd choice, or at the least odd not to provide the resources to get more engineers involved. Something seems wrong here, imho. Last edited by fairlanefastback on 30-Jun-2007 at 05:19 AM.
_________________ Pegasos2 G3 running AOS 4.1 and MorphOS 2.0 Amikit user, tinkering with Icaros VM (AROS) EFIKA owner Amiga 1200 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
tonyw
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 10:40:33
| | [ #33 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 8-Mar-2003 Posts: 3240
From: Sydney (of course) | | |
|
| @fairlanefastback
As others have already said, such decisions are consistent with a token effort to help convince a box of tech-ignorant jurors.
_________________ cheers tony
Hyperion Support Forum: http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Fransexy
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 10:52:10
| | [ #34 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 8-Jun-2004 Posts: 2334
From: Elche (Alicante), spain | | |
|
| @NoelFuller
Quote:
NoelFuller wrote: @herewegoagain
So I asked the same question, the answer was Definitely I then asked if Amiga Inc will win the courtcase? Answer: ask again later
LOL
Noel
|
Well, i asked if the new Amiga will appear this summer
And the answers was crystal clear: "YES"!!!
So, don´t worry, we will have a new Amiga this summer after all _________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
NoelFuller
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 11:30:42
| | [ #35 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 29-Mar-2003 Posts: 926
From: Auckland, New Zealand | | |
|
| @Fransexy
A test - I asked just now:
Will Alinghy win race 5 Americas Cup? - Ask again later Will Emirates Team NZ win race 5 Americas Cup? - Absolutely
The race starts in 85 minutes Of course I'm not superstitious!
Noel |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
swoodall
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 11:33:47
| | [ #36 ] |
|
|
|
Regular Member |
Joined: 17-Sep-2003 Posts: 248
From: Raleigh NC, USA | | |
|
| |
Status: Offline |
|
|
Colin_Camper
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 13:28:47
| | [ #37 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 6-Jul-2003 Posts: 1188
From: Unknown | | |
|
| @fairlanefastback
Quote:
Something seems wrong here, imho. |
No. You have hit upon the truth.
Scamiga Inc have no intention of seeing a partner release hardware. They chose ACK because he has absolutely no chance in their minds eye of being ready to release anything.
The Scamiga/ACK partnership is just there to provide another court document to pretend that they actually want to do something with OS4 and Hyperion are stopping them.
I would like to give ACK the benefit of doubt and believe that he is just caught up in this deception unawares - however I cannot believe anyone could be so naive and (frankly) stupid. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
NoelFuller
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 14:48:45
| | [ #38 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 29-Mar-2003 Posts: 926
From: Auckland, New Zealand | | |
|
| @swoodall
Quote:
I know I shouldn't feed the beast, but at the time of the "7448 cards for A1XE", and PowerVixen publicity last year, it was reported that ACK is a four person company. |
Quite so, yet we have never heard more of them and quite recently Ack said "I'm only one man". Perhaps that only applies to the hardware that was under discussion then - Ack's own Amiga projects.
Noel
P.S. Magic 8 ball is no good. Alingi 4 TNZ 2
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Amiboy
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 14:51:28
| | [ #39 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 21-Dec-2003 Posts: 1056
From: At home (probably) | | |
|
| @Helge
Nope they wont!
Amiboy _________________ Live Long and keep Amigaing!
A1200, Power Tower, TF1260 128MB RAM, 68060 Rev 6, OS3.9 BB2, HD-Floppy, Mediator TX+ PCI, Voodoo 3 3000, Soundblaster 4.1, TV Card, Spider USB, 100MBit Ethernet, 16GB CF HD, 52xCDRom. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
edponpon
| |
Re: Will ACK Software Controls PPC Amigas ever come out? Posted on 30-Jun-2007 16:35:21
| | [ #40 ] |
|
|
|
Regular Member |
Joined: 8-May-2007 Posts: 314
From: USA, The World Police | | |
|
| @Helge
Sure the boards will come out. They're just waiting for the world's scientists to first solve the Global Warming issue, then Amiga Inc will release the computers; because they are, after all, very Earth friendly with the low watts that they use. . . . .
Ed
Last edited by edponpon on 30-Jun-2007 at 04:36 PM.
_________________ Amiga 1200 - ACA 1233 68030 128MB Ram 8GB CF With tons of Classics
AmigaOne X5000
Raspberry PI 400 - PiMiga 1.5 "That which doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger" - Someone important, but I forgot who |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|