@jahc
It's been hinted that because X11 is native makes Firefox also native, as such it would be reason enough for having the bounty.

Well, for me it wouldn't, not only because it is not Amiga native in the sense Amiga programs are but also because it would only be available for OS4, all very far away from bounty conditions, unless you change them that is...

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@All

first of all.. yes the program is compiled and it can be executed but it fail in a class and i'm investigate what is wrong..
second.. i haven't ask nothing regards bounty and however behind this program there are a lot of people that should receive a "slice" of bounty. Edgar for the X11 port and libs, Friedens Bros for nspr and maybe.. me for the rest..
But i want only port firefox because WE NEED a browser.. nothing else..

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is the bounty page still being maintained?

it looks pretty old.

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@afxgroup

I like this way of thinking!
Keep it up and if a working browser will come out of it I will give my appreciation ($!).

If we still want having fun with this platform we don't have to wait marketing/political people!

@pixie

I also agree with what you say. As DiscreetFX said, it would obviously be nice to make it an Amiga 'specific' port - AREXX port etc...

That's my way of thinking, anyway.

Steve

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@afxgroup

Keep up the great work. It's thanks to people like you, that we are saved from sinking.
Cheers!

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@stevieu

Adding Amiga-specific features (suc as AREXX or proper menus) would be great, but this is an initial step to getting the program working on the OS4 platform. The package can evolve from there once we actually have the thing running!

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@amipal

Yes, I know that (hence the message of thanks underneath my previous comment).

I was just adding to what pixie said, regarding the bounty and finally having a 'proper' Amiga port.

Steve

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Great... keep up the good work...

I hope I can be able to try it out sometime in the future... All depends on new HW and SW..

In the meantime... Best of luck to you..

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@afxgroup

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But i want only port firefox because WE NEED a browser

Finally someone is starting to get it. I appreciate your efforts!!

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@pixie

Nobody stops you or anybody else to create your own X11 implementation for your beloved platform.

@all

Andrea did a huge step ahead, but it's very far away from the end. Speaking about the bounty now is too early. I'd suggest to calm down and if you want to support Andrea, you can still donate some money to him.

@afxgroup

Talking about Edgar Schwan's Cygnix (X11) package, is he working on optimising it at all? It works, but it is sluggish compared to the Amiga GUI system. I realize that X11 is a big system with significant overhead, but I'm sure that it could be made to run faster.

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@Hans

As far as I know, he is working on it and there are plans how to make it even faster. If I'm correct on Amigans.net you can find a discussion about this.

@Hans
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Talking about Edgar Schwan's Cygnix (X11) package, is he working on optimising it at all?

Yes and I betcha he would work harder on it if you donated some cash for what he has produced so far. I know I have.

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Ahem. Static variables are not problem in library code

Uhm, given that static variables are just the same as globals, only with limited scope, I fail to see how that would work.

If process A stores value 1 in static variable X, then process B stores value 2, then process A reads X and gets... 2; However, process A should have gotten 1.

Yes, one *could* allocate a dedicated memory area for globals/statics on each OpenLibrary; If one were to make a copy of the library structure at the same time (or at least of the user-level accessible parts), one could then access the dedicated, per-process version through the library pointer. But AFAIK, that's not how things work in AmigaOS.

So, how does one make


int it_has_been_a_long_time(time_t now)
{
static time_t last=0;
int answer;

answer=(now-last>3600);
last=now;
return answer;
}


safe to be called from multiple processes, without the value of "last" getting confused between them?

@Hans

I think, I should write some words about my new Cygnix here:

I'm recompiling the whole project to achieve these targets:
* Better performance. As a first step I use now newlib instead of clib2. It's faster now, but still not fast enough. Now the server must be optimized.
* Reduce conflicts with other unix ports and with the OS4-SDK.
* Use a common way to compile/configure all parts of cygnix.

Andrea's firefox binary is already using these new libs.

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Chip wrote: @pixie Nobody stops you or anybody else to create your own X11 implementation for your beloved platform. @all Andrea did a huge step ahead, but it's very far away from the end. Speaking about the bounty now is too early. I'd suggest to calm down and if you want to support Andrea, you can still donate some money to him.

Him?

@CygnusEd

Thanks for the update. Good to hear that performance has already improved.

Hans

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Him?

Yes.

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umisef wrote: @itix Quote: Ahem. Static variables are not problem in library code Uhm, given that static variables are just the same as globals, only with limited scope, I fail to see how that would work. If process A stores value 1 in static variable X, then process B stores value 2, then process A reads X and gets... 2; However, process A should have gotten 1. Yes, one *could* allocate a dedicated memory area for globals/statics on each OpenLibrary; If one were to make a copy of the library structure at the same time (or at least of the user-level accessible parts), one could then access the dedicated, per-process version through the library pointer. But AFAIK, that's not how things work in AmigaOS. So, how does one make int it_has_been_a_long_time(time_t now) { static time_t last=0; int answer; answer=(now-last>3600); last=now; return answer; } safe to be called from multiple processes, without the value of "last" getting confused between them?

You're not supposed to use static local variables in shared code, unless it's meant to be shared across all processes. You might actually want to have global variables that are not different for each process as they track things common to all (possibly in something like a networking library).

Amiga OS4's library interfaces system allows interfaces to have their own private local variables for each process that obtains an interface.

Hans

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