@Oli_hd

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a boycot Amiga products would be do-able

AW has some history on that topic:

The potential of boycotting Amiga Inc

[Poll] boycott of A Inc??

(included only to show this is not a new train of thought here)

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@number6

Were any of us buying their antiquated (IMO) WinXP game titles that they resell anyway? Whats to boycott? I think more effective would be a public awareness campaign about the believed $90,000 take-in on the $50 coupon thing.

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@Helge

Yes You didn't do anything wrong. (Just a little over the..You know;)
Over "excited" Amiga-fan like the most here?

Only mature people are calm like the Lord so what are You on? I just bought 3 big packs of beer and some food just to enjoy this theatre once in a while when a minute or two from my garden-garage-restoration work or in the band.

All we are fustrated about the situation. Get coding if You have the cells in the brain left, I know I dont't;)

See Ya!

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@Helge you got my fully support helge in this, giving abuse report for what you said in this post is not fair!... these faint-hearted people at aw.net can go to another place if they cant take it!... the baby talk is over, its about time people can speak their mind without being harassed for it!

I suggest you (and others as well) study this section of Amigaworld.net's Terms Of Service very carefully.


Flame/Attacks: Do not flame! Flaming refers to derogatory, abusive, threatening, sarcastic, rude, or otherwise mean-spirited messages directed at members/users. Be cautious when using sarcasm and humour. Without facial expressions and tone of voice, they do not translate easily over the Internet in posts and may be perceived as flaming. Report the flame posts immediately to an Amigaworld Team Member so that the situation can be dealt with immediately. A warning may be issued depending on the severity of flame/attacks.

This has nothing to do with opinions and letting people speak their minds, it has to do with the section above!
Physical threats towards other members (and non members too) are not ok on aw.net, and never will be!

And before anyone replies to this, do consider this part of the TOS:

Ajudication: Whilst AmigaWorld.net moderation tries to be fair and balanced sometimes errors can occur. If you disagree with a specific instance where you have been moderated then please put your complaint to the Webmaster, an Administrator or another moderator for consideration and possible action. Arguments about specific moderation incidents are not tolerated on the public forum, use the adjudication process open to you.

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@tonyw

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tonyw wrote: Damn, I got tricked into reading this. I failed to see the three exclamation marks on the end of the title.

:lmao:

You're not the only one, I see..

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@tomazkid

/OT and as an aside
The question of Bill and Fleecy's member ids on here was still out there BTW. Can you let me know what are they? I'm curious to read their previous posts on here.

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@fairlanefastback

Sorry, forgot to reply to that yesterday, anyway here goes:

Billmc

Fleecy

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And Jonas:
http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=357

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so i got an abuse report now, for agreeing/supporting with helge...... great!!! some idiot having fun or what!!

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@d0c

And for that a week vacation. Read the TOS now that you have some time.

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@d0c

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some idiot having fun or what!!

Must be, laughable IMHO.

I agree with Helge on some parts something should be done!

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@All

Far too long and too often, we have limited ourselves with talks. Now it's time to take action and actually do something. We love the Amiga, right? That's why we are here. Why is there an AmigaWorld site? Why are we members of this site? Cause we love the Amiga. We want to see it moving forward into the future, to actually become a REAL computer platform again..

As we know, Amiga Inc gave promises to never fail as Commodore did. Actually, Amiga Inc has repeated the Commodore mistake by making false promises that should go through back in 2001. That never happened, and here we are into 2007. The company that actually did the job, was Hyperion Entertainment Group. They even have resources to port AmigaOS4 to x86, only if they are given the rights to do that...

But again, Hyperion Entertainment Group should have all the Amiga rights, not Amiga Inc. Amiga Inc should be led by Hyperion Entertainment Group, not by clumsy clowns like Bill McEwen and his chickens...

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@tomazkid

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tomazkid wrote: @fairlanefastback Sorry, forgot to reply to that yesterday, anyway here goes: Billmc Fleecy

Thanks. :)

Billmc has zero posts. He logged in only the day he created the account and never again. Which was 16-Mar-2004.

Is this account here to only make sure he falls under the "member" TOS rules so that criticism will be limited by the rules moderators are bound to? It seems like a cheesy way to get out of his public figure status which for anyone with such status invites scrutiny and both praise and criticism. I'm not saying it was done on purpose, but this limitation sure will make it harder to frankly discuss public community intiatives. Since the account appears abandoned can it be deleted so that we are not as limited by his member status? It affords him extra protection from that which can be communicated here in discussions about his role as acting president of Amiga. Conversely I openly invite him to use his account and communicate with us more. But this convienent placeholder to shape how TOS applies to him I think is a shame.

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@fairlanefastback

Does it matter ? See post nr 44 from Tomazkid. (Note tho it can be interpreted differently, a user of this board is not the same as a member, if you only want to read the site there are only a few benefits by becomming a member)

But this is off topic IMHO (And maybe even against the TOS)

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Seer wrote: @fairlanefastback Does it matter ? See post nr 44 from Tomazkid. (Note tho it can be interpreted differently, a user of this board is not the same as a member, if you only want to read the site there are only a few benefits by becomming a member) But this is off topic IMHO (And maybe even against the TOS)

Since you ask if it matters I'll say this at least. Yes I think it matters. Not to be able to flame. That should not be done. But to potentially critize/frankly discuss like we might critize/frankly discuss what a Bill Gates does. Sure. And I think his member status has stopped us from being able to do that at times.

I'll say no more than this due to your OT and possible TOS decision, which is your right to make.

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@tomazkid

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Sorry, forgot to reply to that yesterday, anyway here goes:Billmc

Are you sure that is Bill McEwen ?

I find the "Num of complaints: 0" rather difficult to believe

Or can one only complain about a member's specific postings and not the member himself !


It would be rather difficult to as he never seems to have posted anything !


Can I file an abuse report about Billmc who still owes me £35 UK. His thieving behaviour is clearly unacceptable.



Bill.

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It would be rather difficult to as he never seems to have posted anything !

Actually it's more dramatic than that.
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Member Since: 16-Mar-2004

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Last Login: 16-Mar-2004

AW is not even fully accessible without logging in, ergo HE has not had full accessibility to the site since day 1.

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All right all right, back on topic please, Throw-Amiga-Inc-Out-Campaign..

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@Oli_hd

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Anyhow a throw amiga inc out campaign is just so silly, a boycot Amiga products would be do-able (heck a support Amiga products campaign would be harder) but its not like they could do what you want, they would loose all hold on the Amiga name they bought.

Seeing as how Amiga Inc. has refused to sell to us, or refused to allow anyone else to sell to us, "Amiga products", I think the company would be overjoyed if we all refuse to buy their stuff. Amiga Inc. has been the main obstacle to AmigaOS and hardware for it being buyable. As far as we can tell Amiga Inc. refuses to do business with anyone interested in OS4. Like you say, they would probably be far more annoyed if anyone did buy anything from them, but as things stand I'm not sure they have anything to sell anyway. Even if you count cell phone games written by others in the Amiga store, I have Verizon and none of their phones do ANYTHING, and I know it's simply not possible for me to run any of that stuff, so I don't count it.

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@billt

I think they have to realize that they are not able to provide Amiga with anything. The only company that can do that, is Hyperion Entertainment Group, and porting AmigaOS4 to x86, just like AROS has been developed and ported to x86, would be for the best...

It no longer matters what CPU AmigaOS4 is running at, because it's the AmigaOS that makes the Amiga special, not the hardware itself..

If Amiga Inc had been listening to the community, just like Hyperion Entertainment Group has done, an x86-version of AmigaOS4 would have been out long ago, or already.

Money isn't everything. It never was, it isn't and will never be...

A message to AI: For Gods' sake. Don't embarrash yourself and do what is best for the community. Say goodbye as business nerdies. Admit that you have failed the Amiga community, by violating it and admit that you don't have the trust or any possibility to heal the damage you have done to the community, and Hyperion Entertainment Group, whom has actually provided the community with a finished AmigaOS4. They CAN port AmigaOS4 to x86, if ONLY given the rights to do that..

No matter how you turn this out, Amiga Inc, Hyperion Entertainment Group WILL win the trial case, no matter what. You have to possibilities:

1.You can keep fighting this hopless trial case, and Hyperion Entertainment will win anyway, and you only proving that you are violating the community even more..

2. You can end the trial case now by simply giving up, sign yourself out and hand all the rights to Hyperion Entertainment Group and make sure they can port AmigaOS4 to x86..

That's all, and that will be for the best. Listen to the community for one last chance..

If not, then you will have to take the concequences as a company, Amiga Inc..

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