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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 3:23:57
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@number6

What planet are you from, number6? Did you not read fairlanefastback's post? I asked him to stop making personal attacks on me, are you saying that was initself a personal attack on him? Is my statement "please stop portraying your beliefs about me as facts" infringing on his rights to insult me? Did I type "wrongpla.net" by mistake in my browser or something?

How about this as a revolutionary concept; perhaps telling fairlanefastback to stop breaking the TOS and making personal attacks on me would make be complain less about it? I don't know, just throwing an idea out there.

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 3:33:23
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Yes, I am saying that manipulation of your corporation for your personal gain and to the detriment of employees and/or stock holders is wrong. It is an epidemic now.


Ehh... "manipulation of your corporation for your personal gain and to the detriment of employees and/or stock holders" is NOT "regardless of the circumstances". It's in fact very specific circumstances. We're not discussing the same thing. I'm glad you do seem to agree with me, though.


I was getting off topic and on to a rant of my own.

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 3:36:27
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@ Thread

It is starting to heat up in here. Let's all take a deep breath and back off awhile.

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 4:49:47
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@samface

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Well, if you just wanted to voice your opinion and not have it challanged by, let's say, a different opinion, then avoid public forums and especially avoid challanging other people's opinions.

Huh? It was you who asked who made us forum participants the ones to decide on the issue, and I was just pointing out that we don't decide, of course, but simply submit our opinions. Naturally I expect to have my opinions challenged; I have no problem with that.

As for your other comments, I'll not waste time and energy continuing to argue. Believe whatever you like. To me, and apparently to most of us here, the reality is quite clear.

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 6:20:35
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@ Thread

It is starting to heat up in here. Let's all take a deep breath and back off awhile.


Have we reached the proper cooking temperature for pancakes yet?

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 7:25:24
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@Darth_X

Darth_X, I voted Yes that they should pay their employees, but now I think I should change that to NO.

Why, well, the more I thought about, the more I realized they are playing with fire. I mean the more people they keep screwing over, well, the sooner one of them is going to come back with a gun.... And then Hyperion will have a better chance of getting the OS.

Hey what goes around comes around. They are "playing" with peoples lives. And I don't use the word "playing" lightly. It really is pathetic.

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 7:58:57
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I'm back!
(for a moment only...)

AmigaWorld have one problem, a big one!
If You (?) can remove this problem The AmigaWorld will be the best Amiga forum in the World.

The BIG problem is the hard word and hate against some members and some people on the outside (guess ho?).

The first time I write here I have a chock! I defense Amiga Inc one time and I have all the mobb over me.

AmigaWorld owner, You must do something about it!!

I see Amiga Inc is back and I see a stronger Amiga Inc. I see they have some very good products on way. This must be very intresting for a Amiga forum to discuss.






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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 8:36:37
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@linnar

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I see Amiga Inc is back and I see a stronger Amiga Inc. I see they have some very good products on way. This must be very intresting for a Amiga forum to discuss.


The problem is there is nothing to discuss. I mean, what would we say about these "very good products on the way"? We do not have even "1" technical spec, like, say does AA2 even have a TCP/IP stack. Let alone something like a screen shot of video to discuss. So what does that leave us with to talk about?

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 10:16:40
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@linnar

Quote:

linnar wrote:

I'm back!



Then welcome...

Quote:

linnar wrote:

(for a moment only...)



...for a moment!


Quote:

linnar wrote:

...
The first time I write here I have a chock!



Errrrmmmm - what do you mean with "chock" - "cock" or "shock" (or "clock"?)?

Quote:

linnar wrote:

I defense Amiga Inc one time and I have all the mobb over me.



The solution might be not to defend AInc, as they obviously don't deserve it...

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linnar wrote:

...
I see they have some very good products on way.



Where do you see those "very good products" - can you provide a link, please?
So far I only have heard announcements - as usual...

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linnar wrote:

This must be very intresting for a Amiga forum to discuss.



What do you think we are doing here?

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 10:45:45
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@Dandy

"Errrrmmmm - what do you mean with "chock" - "cock" or "shock" (or "clock"?)?"

Öhhh, I am not good to write in English, "shock" is the rigth word !

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Posted on 8-Feb-2008 10:55:43
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@Dandy

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Where do you see those "very good products" - can you provide a link, please?


Ok, let me see...
Amiga Inc have present AA2 and coming OS5.

In this moment it's all, but more is coming later and this way to present is the normal way to do it.


Quote:
What do you think we are doing here?


Some of You discuss very well but it is not easy when the mobb posting nonsensmessage every time and again and again and again and ..........


(When I write I have a the hole time!)

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 11:31:27
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@linnar

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@Dandy

"Errrrmmmm - what do you mean with "chock" - "cock" or "shock" (or "clock"?)?"

Öhhh, I am not good to write in English, "shock" is the rigth word !



Hmmmmm - just a suggestion - how about typing your postings inside of an word processor with activated spell-checker and copy/paste it to the forum afterwards?

(This way I could improve my English writing abilities significantly...)

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Posted on 8-Feb-2008 11:49:15
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@linnar

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@Dandy

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Where do you see those "very good products" - can you provide a link, please?



Ok, let me see...



Yes - let me see it, too!


Quote:

linnar wrote:

Amiga Inc have present AA2 and coming OS5.

In this moment it's all, but more is coming later...



That reminds me of June 2000, when McBill and Fleecy demonstrated AmigaDE for the very first time at an Amiga fair here in Neuss/Germany (or was that 2001?).

Some nice, colourful AmigaDE windows with transparency effects on his (McBill's) Windows laptop and talk of OS5 and of an "transformation path" - that is nearly eight yeasrs ago now!

And now you come and tell me

Quote:

linnar wrote:

...
this way to present is the normal way to do it.
...



- do you really believe that yourself?

8 years of demonstrating and announcing - and still nothing tangible - that is what you see as "the normal way to do it"???

In this case you see me (shocked)...

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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 12:45:10
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@Dandy

The BIG point for Amiga Inc is this 8 year.
But, we all know why it's is 8 year of silence and the 8 year have discuss in thousand of message. Let it be to end now!

Now we have a new time with a new Amiga Inc and a new (=older) Bill McEwen.


He, he, he....I use Word to checking my spellings!!
Thank You Dandy for the tip!!

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Posted on 8-Feb-2008 14:48:47
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@linnar

Quote:

linnar wrote:
I'm back!
(for a moment only...)

AmigaWorld have one problem, a big one!
If You (?) can remove this problem The AmigaWorld will be the best Amiga forum in the World.

The BIG problem is the hard word and hate against some members and some people on the outside (guess ho?).

The first time I write here I have a chock! I defense Amiga Inc one time and I have all the mobb over me.

AmigaWorld owner, You must do something about it!!

I see Amiga Inc is back and I see a stronger Amiga Inc. I see they have some very good products on way. This must be very intresting for a Amiga forum to discuss.


What exactly are you suggesting the owner of AW.net do? If you have suggestions why not PM him? Though reading what you have written so far it almost sounds like you effectively want a silencing of the majority. Amiga, Inc. could take steps to repair its reputation. No one is stopping them. Most of what you want, nearly everyone trusting and loving Amiga the company again, is in the hands of Bill McEwen and his actions, not in the hands of the owner of AW.net.

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Posted on 8-Feb-2008 14:51:34
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I mean the more people they keep screwing over, well, the sooner one of them is going to come back with a gun.... And then Hyperion will have a better chance of getting the OS.


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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 18:29:14
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@fairlanefastback

Quote:

fairlanefastback wrote:
@linnar

Quote:

linnar wrote:
I'm back!
(for a moment only...)

AmigaWorld have one problem, a big one!
If You (?) can remove this problem The AmigaWorld will be the best Amiga forum in the World.

The BIG problem is the hard word and hate against some members and some people on the outside (guess ho?).

The first time I write here I have a chock! I defense Amiga Inc one time and I have all the mobb over me.

AmigaWorld owner, You must do something about it!!

I see Amiga Inc is back and I see a stronger Amiga Inc. I see they have some very good products on way. This must be very intresting for a Amiga forum to discuss.


What exactly are you suggesting the owner of AW.net do? If you have suggestions why not PM him? Though reading what you have written so far it almost sounds like you effectively want a silencing of the majority. Amiga, Inc. could take steps to repair its reputation. No one is stopping them. Most of what you want, nearly everyone trusting and loving Amiga the company again, is in the hands of Bill McEwen and his actions, not in the hands of the owner of AW.net.



Do You realy think it's help to PM Moderator? Moderator' is a part of the problem or maybe IS the problem.

"/.../ want a silencing of the majority"
I want to see silencing of the mob!

"Amiga, Inc. could take steps to repair its reputation. No one is stopping them."
No, but the mob here try to do'it!


" Most of what you want, nearly everyone trusting and loving Amiga the company again, is in the hands of Bill McEwen and his actions, not in the hands of the owner of AW.net"
Why do You think I am a lover of Amiga Inc? Ths is one way the mob try to stop seriously messages.

You must have respect to other thinkins, its not so hard its easy, try it .




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Re: [Poll] Should Amiga inc pay former employees?
Posted on 8-Feb-2008 19:08:19
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@linnar


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Do You realy think it's help to PM Moderator? Moderator' is a part of the problem or maybe IS the problem.


I said owner, not moderator. DaveyD = the owner There is nothing stopping you from sending him a PM.

Quote:
"Amiga, Inc. could take steps to repair its reputation. No one is stopping them."
No, but the mob here try to do'it!


Even if that is so what does that have to with what Amiga can choose to do to better their own situation? Why aren't you concerned with the fact they aren't doing much, not even some very simple things that could better their own situation? (This is not to say they are doing nothing, there seems to be *some* acitvity lately, lets hope they learn to ramp up quickly with more).

Quote:
Why do You think I am a lover of Amiga Inc? Ths is one way the mob try to stop seriously messages.


Then clarify please. What I am getting from what you say is that you deem there to be a mob and accuse that mob of things. You say the mods are possibly part of the problem. You want AW.net's owner to quell this mob you percieve. Am I mis-understanding you? Who is going to be the fair criticism police then? You? Or will no criticism be allowed at all of Amiga Inc. in what you want AW.net to become? Who will draw up the first list of those to be silenced? Please, if I am mis-understanding please let me know where.

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You must have respect to other thinkins, its not so hard its easy, try it


That door swings both ways Linnar. You don't like the majority opinions expressed and/or the manner in which they are expressed it seems. You came in here with the negative label of a "mob" from a start. Thats not very respectful in my book. I'm not saying you are walking in with bad intentions, rather that you perhaps are not fully looking at the asking for censorship to occur is not open thinking or respectful of other opinions. Even if you find them distasteful. A better excercise if I might suggest it is that you start threads of your own and if you feel they are being "hijacked" with undue negativity you press the report button and followup with a PM to a mod. I'd love to have something intelligent to offer in threads about OS4 machines and software, but I have no access to such to do so. I'd love to talk speak hopefully of OS5 on ACK machines, but we are not provided with any means to do so from Amiga, like screenshots, Youtube videos, nothing. Like most here the AA and AA2 products hold much less interest to me. But info to be bright and cheery there for Amiga is sparse as well. For some these kind of threads, like this one, are based on some of the only news we are getting. I.E. Fran Dramis added, this other new hire programmer as well. Its no small wonder they end up being popular threads. Perhaps thats sad, but at least people still care.

Quote:
I want to see silencing of the mob!


You say you want these people "silenced". This may make for a happier place for you then, but it has to come at someone else's expense then for how they feel. The majority vote on this poll agrees with someone vocal on the subject, Darth-X, whom I *think* you'd probably consider a mob member as it were. If the majority vote is so much in his idea's favor don't you think you are asking a lot to "silence" people who share the same opinion as Darth-X? DaveyD as the private owner of this board can do this if you are able to convince him though. So why not just take it up with him, try hard to convince him and see if you can get what you want. But I don't see the point in you campaigning out here for this silencing you are looking for.

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@linnar

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You must have respect to other thinkins, its not so hard its easy, try it .


Quite funny, coming from someone who wants opposing opinions silenced.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was: The MoOoOoOoOb rules! (Black Sabbath)

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@Zardoz and fairlanefastback

I now You understand My thinking.
Your messages is not a answer to my posts!
It's only more meaningless words.



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