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A1200 
Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 11-Jun-2010 0:57:52
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@DBAlex

Cool stuff, one thing I don't think the guide mentions is that when you edit the files such as amitcp:bin/startnet and amitcp:db/interfaces amitcp:db/passwd it changes the file info and you need to go into information and tick the executable and script options. I thought I better put this down on here, as I recall this tripping me up before and I am sure others will find this too (using OS3.1)

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 11-Jun-2010 1:02:15
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For my latest ADSL Wireless Router Firewall suggestion, you can't go wrong with a Draytek Vigor - the 2820 is their flagship model. Available with wireless n networking and VoIP phone port models. They have a 2nd WAN interface for load balancing or failover and a USB port for a 3G dongle for the same purpose.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 16-Apr-2013 5:47:41
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Whap happen if the router not have WEP config?. I have a router, just have WPA, WPA2, and others, but not WEP.

Exists any way to config Prism2.devices with this?. I saw in any site somebody updated the firmware in any Netgear network card (lke the mine), but i dont know if that could work.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 16-Apr-2013 7:07:24
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@Drummerboy
Latest prism2.device package on Aminet has WirelessManager, which is a ported WPA_Supplicant from Linux. This should support WPA and WPA2. However, experience shows, that your mileage may vary depending on your WiFi router and the actual WPA configuration.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 16-Apr-2013 23:28:08
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@Chain-Q

Thanks for your info!

I was trying to config my A1200 with the home Wifi following this Guide:
http://wiki.classicamiga.com/Setting_up_Wireless_Internet_Access_on_A1200

But not work for me. Then i dont know if i am missing something in the Startup-Sequence. Take a look to the Startaup-Sequence in this machine:

; $VER: startup-sequence 39.9 (9.8.92)

C:SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21

C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
C:CardReset

C:SetPrism2Defaults SSID KEY

C:CardPatch
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
run >nil: C:MagicWB-Demon 4,123,123,123 5,175,175,175 6,170,144,124 7,255,169,151 8,0,0,255 ; Don't remove this entry!
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER


IF NOT EXISTS SYS:Fonts
Assign FONTS:
EndIF

c:FBlit
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)

IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors
IF EXISTS DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
DEVS:Monitors/VGAOnly
EndIF

C:List >NIL: DEVS:Monitors/~(#?.info|VGAOnly) TO T:M LFORMAT "DEVS:Monitors/%s"
Execute T:M
C:Delete >NIL: T:M
EndIF

SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart

C:IPrefs

C:ConClip
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities

IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF

Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE
C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:


Anybody can see something wrong?.

Any comment, suggest and help are welcome.

Thanks.

Last edited by Drummerboy on 05-May-2013 at 07:54 PM.
Last edited by Drummerboy on 16-Apr-2013 at 11:36 PM.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 17-Apr-2013 8:17:26
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@Drummerboy
The first obvious spot is the usage of SetPrism2Defaults. This tool is for setting up WEP, and is for the old prism2.device. With the WPA-aware new driver, you don't need this tool, and more you have to remove it!

Second, you have to start WirelessManager instead, and configure it using ENV:Sys/Wireless.prefs. The readme of the new prism2.device details this. But anyway, this file is equal to wpa_supplicant.conf on some Linux distributions, which is a simple text file. Wireless.prefs has the same syntax, so there should be plenty of examples floating around on the net for specific hotspot configurations.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 17-Apr-2013 15:20:39
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@Chain-Q

Ok, i going to check thats things.

I will keep you informed about the results

Thanks!

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 18-Apr-2013 4:01:33
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@Chain-Q

Ok, apparently all seems set. Taking a look to Wireless.prefs.

But, when i try to config the Internet conection with the MiamiDX - MiamiInit, not found the IP, Gateway, subnet mask, etc.

Then, something is wrong.

Suggest, comments, are welcome.

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Chain-Q 
Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 18-Apr-2013 7:58:01
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@Drummerboy
Did you start WirelessManager? This is the process step-by-step:

1., you make a Wireless.prefs file which you think should work.
2., start WirelessManager from shell. Wait until it prints some lines to the shell window, which indicates it found the desired SSID and successfully connected to it. This can take up to 30 seconds (or more with slow CPUs).
3., if it fails to connect to the SSID you specified, press CTRL-C to exit WirelessManager, and tweak Wireless.prefs until it works. :)
4., if WirelessManager connected *THEN* press Online button in MiamiDx, to connect the TCP/IP layer of the network.
5., If it works, add the required WirelessManager line to s:user-startup, or make some shortcut script to start it when desired.

Few notes.
- WirelessManager is part of prism2v2 package on Aminet, get it if you don't have it yet. You also need to update the SANA-II driver to the version which is found in this package.
- the whole wireless connection thing is one level BELOW your TCP/IP stack, which will know nothing about it. Think the WirelessManager connecting as plugging in the cable on a wired network.
- I don't recommend running WirelessManager all the time, because it's a CPU hog, especially with machines using a slow CPU (anything less than a '060, really), since it does all the WPA encryption/decryption which is normally done by the network hardware all by software on the main CPU (because your old network card which works in the Amiga can't support WPA by hardware). So only start it before you go online.

... I should really wrote a tutorial about this, with screenshots... This is roughly the 15th time I try to explain these things to someone... :)

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 18-Apr-2013 16:49:56
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@Chain-Q

Great explanation!.

I will check again step by step all your suggests this night. I am away from my A1200 in this moment.

You know, the wirelessmanager never opened in my WB, trying to run from shell. I dont remember now, but said something like "bad arguments".

Sure, be great any tutorial with some screenshots!
I will update how works.
Thanks!

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 18-Apr-2013 19:57:22
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@Drummerboy
Writing this from memory, I think you need to run it like this: WirelessManager prism2.device 0

With the 0 being the unit of the device.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 18-Apr-2013 23:21:24
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@Chain-Q

If i write WirelessManager prism2.device 0 show "wrong number of arguments"

If i write just WirelessManager prism2.device something happen, but not open any window and the cursor in the shell disappears; then if press Ctrl+C show "CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING-SIGNAL 12 RECIVED"

I dont know if i am missing something..

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 21-Apr-2013 3:36:13
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Ok, for now nothing


But using in shell "Wirelessmanager prism2.device verbose", show the card find the netword, you know "can see" the network, but in the results says too "No Suitable network found", and "not WPA/RSN IE"
But the router is configured as WPA-PSK. And the Network names match.

What could be happen?!

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 21-Apr-2013 19:39:10
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@Drummerboy

You need to update the firmware in your Netgear PCMCIA card.
The MA401 for example won't work without it. As soon as Miami/MiamiDX tries to open prism2.device, with an older firmware, it will freeze your Amiga solid.

It's not something you can do in an A1200 or A600 either, but is relatively staight forward if you have a XP Laptop, and once you have done it I can confirm the card will work fine with WPA on a BT-Homehub 2 for example.

Firstly Download

http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/WinUpdate-0-7-0.exe

Then Download

http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/firmware/1.7.4/pk010101.hex
http://linux.junsun.net/intersil-prism/firmware/1.7.4/sf010704.hex

pk010101.hex is the primary firmware and sf010704.hex is the station firmware.

Don't use the Netgear Drivers to install the card under XP, instead use the
WPC11 ***2.5*** Drivers from below. Download and unpack somewhere.

http://support.linksys.com/en-us/support/adapters/WPC11

Insert the MA401 and when the hardware wizard pops up choose the I will choose the driver to install, have disk options, then browse the unpacked driver folder and select LSWLNDS.INF in the WINXP Directory.

Don't allow any firmware updates if prompted, cancel them.

If in Device Manager you get a "!" next to "Instant
Wireless Network PC Card V2.5" With Error Code 10, then try a reboot.

Run and install WinUpdate , you should see the card listed, add both the .hex files (pk010101.hex first then add sf010704.hex) and proceed to flash the card.

You can verify the new firmware from the tools menu or do that first to see whats currently in the card.

It should then work OK fine in an A1200, just reinstall prism2v2 from aminet and follow the installer walk through.

Don't forget to add the following in your startup-sequence too

C:CardPatch
C:CardReset TICKS 50 AUDIO ON

after C:setpatch

both are on Aminet

Reboot run miamiinit and choose prism2.device and you should be OK

Last edited by JurassicC on 21-Apr-2013 at 07:51 PM.
Last edited by JurassicC on 21-Apr-2013 at 07:50 PM.
Last edited by JurassicC on 21-Apr-2013 at 07:45 PM.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 22-Apr-2013 3:44:19
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@JurassicC

Ok, great explanation!. Sure, this MA401 must have an ols Firmware.

I will do that Firmware update.

Thanks, and I will be informing about.

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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless
Posted on 23-Apr-2013 2:07:12
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@JurassicC

Hey!, thanks men!

It works!, i am writing this post from my A1200 Wireless Connection!

Verily Thank you very much!, and thanks to Chain-Q for your advices and comments too.



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