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RockDemon 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 13:19:18
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i got a mail from amigakit to expect news on thursday.

Fingers crossed that'll be it :o)

I think the people involved are genuine people, so if you phone up and ask a direct question they'll probably tell you directly what the problem is.

Rich.

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Tomas 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 14:05:08
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@Nostromo
I am wondering the same.. I ordered in november and i am still waiting on my board.
I dont see why it should take so long to quality check a few boards and i am honestly getting tired of waiting now. I am starting to think they didnt produce enough boards.

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Tomas 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 14:07:12
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> Anyone got any idea when aCube are going to ship another batch of Sam440
> to distributors?

They already shiped them. I got mine yesterday from Vesalia.

Kind regards,

Dennis

Still no update on AmigaKit

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ShowMan 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 14:21:50
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I really don't understand what is happening:

If there aren't Sams avaiable, this could mean they've sold all the mobos they've produced...nice!
..
..
.. but not so nice if they produce Sams in batch of 2

Showman

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Everblue 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 14:54:31
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@ShowMan

I suspect that the number of boards they make is quite low. There aren't many amiga people left nuts enough to spend mad kind of money on hardware.


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Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 15:10:01
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@Nostromo

It could also be a matter of money - let's say the mobo manufacturer (if it's a third party that makes them) wants payment up-front. A batch of 50 mobo would at a production cost of 350 mean that Acube should prepay 17500.

I don't know Acube's financial situation but given the fact it's a rather small company 17500 is a lot of money.

Just my guess!

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Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
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From Amigakits website "WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED A VERY SMALL BATCH OF SAM440 TODAY- WE WILL IMMEDIATELY SEND THEM OUT TO CUSTOMERS IN THE ORDER WE HAVE RECEIVED PRE-ORDERS. ADDITIONAL STOCKS TO FOLLOW - WE WILL UPDATE WEBSTORE WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WE GET IT FROM ACUBE."

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Rob 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
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@Dwyloc

TCD is gonna kick himself unless he can quickly sort something out with AmigaKit.

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Tomas 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
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@Dwyloc

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Dwyloc wrote:
From Amigakits website "WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED A VERY SMALL BATCH OF SAM440 TODAY- WE WILL IMMEDIATELY SEND THEM OUT TO CUSTOMERS IN THE ORDER WE HAVE RECEIVED PRE-ORDERS. ADDITIONAL STOCKS TO FOLLOW - WE WILL UPDATE WEBSTORE WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS WE GET IT FROM ACUBE."


I just got a mail from amigakit and it looks like my board wont be shipped this time either.. Seriously considering asking for a refund now.

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ChrisH 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 17:21:42
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@Tomas
This does seem ridiculous. While I appreciate that ACube seriously underestimated demand + the current economic situation may mean they have less choice in who can manufacturer their boards cheaply, it is still a stupidly long wait. Allegedly they have fulfilled over 75% of their back-orders, but I'm not sure this is born-out by people waiting on AmigaKit.

I honestly think that ACube should be up-front about why there are serious delays (even if it's "we have 2 people hand-soldering these boards because our previous manufacturer went bust & the other options are twice as expensive"), and give us some kind of realistic timetable (even if it's "another 2 months until we can fulfil all back-orders"), rather than keeping people in the dark until they get really mad & get a very bad view of ACube.

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Phantom 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 17:32:37
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@ChrisH

So, I've to consider myself very lucky that I bought the SAM board from the first batch (from AmigaKit).

Anyway, ACube has to give some information to the customers asap. It's being so long time, I nearly thought that the second batch from AmigaKit was already shipped, and this was the third or fourth one! Anyway, a friend here told about the 17.500 euros. For a company, when they want to call them a company manufacturer, this amount is ridiculous. My car worth triple than that for example and I'm not running a company business manufacturer. Perhaps, clothes for kids, are better solution to earn money!

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andres 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 17:40:15
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Acube makes these boards for a very small market: they can't risk to
have a lot of boards unsold, so they probabily must make small quantities.
And, I don't think that Acube earns a lot of money from one SAM... these
boards are made in small quantities in the EU, not in China... so, they're not
in the condition to risk something more...

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Phantom 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 17:44:42
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Sure, but that's not telling me anything. I'm sure they know that Vesalia and/or AmigaKit or another distributor have already pre-paid for these boards, so why to risk? They have already the money for these boards. Really, how many people are waiting already the second batch and how many they already cancelled their order?

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m3x 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 17:58:38
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@Phantom

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I'm sure they know that Vesalia and/or AmigaKit or another distributor have already pre-paid for these boards, so why to risk? They have already the money for these boards

That's wrong, we don't have already the money the various resellers took from all the preorders...

Just to clarify some points rised in this thread:

- as of today we delivered 85% of the boards the variuos resellers paid us for, and 99% of the back orders single users bought from us
- we restarted delivering boards from Jan 5
- next 7-10 days resellers will receive another small stock (AmigaKit received one today)
- there is a 4th batch which will arrive us approx 3-4 weeks
- there is the first Sam-flex batch which will arrive soon after
- most of the delay were caused from delivery of the 440ep CPU (16 weeks lead time....)
- it seems to me that, in good faith, some resellers have took to much paid preorders without asking/organizing with us in advance about it

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kyle 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 18:09:13
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@m3x

Well done Max

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Tomas 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 18:13:18
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@andres

Quote:

andres wrote:
Acube makes these boards for a very small market: they can't risk to
have a lot of boards unsold, so they probabily must make small quantities.
And, I don't think that Acube earns a lot of money from one SAM... these
boards are made in small quantities in the EU, not in China... so, they're not
in the condition to risk something more...

Well, they made it sounds like there were enough boards but that they need to be quality controlled first.
I dont understand how it should take a month to do the quality testing and then end up shipping only a few boards which is not even enough for nov pre orders.

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Phantom 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 18:14:03
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@m3x

At least. Some good news and info. Now things seem to be more clearly. Thanks.

PS: Sam440-Flex arrive soon after? Hm... Who wants a brand new SAM440ep board?

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Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 18:26:59
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@Phantom

Sam Flex, sounds good to me. :)

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TCD 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 18:27:36
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TCD is gonna kick himself unless he can quickly sort something out with AmigaKit.


I don't

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DaFreak 
Re: New batch of Sam440 - when?
Posted on 14-Jan-2009 19:11:48
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I got my Sam440ep system some days ago!

So ACube delivered a least Vesalia with some new Sam's. Unfortunately Vesalia got not all boards that they ordered. So it's hope for you (as Nostromo mentioned already). :)

greetz from a proud new Sam&OS4.1 owner,
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