@sundown Quote:

As pointed out elsewhere, ACK is not working for or with AI anymore.

Really? I don't recall ever seeing an announcement from Amiga Inc (or ACK) that they had terminated their agreement, or even changed plans. How do you know this?

BTW, such info could be very relevant for the court case. It would make the ACK stuff sound like (another) deal seemingly created to give the court the impression Amiga Inc were a serious company (the Kent farce being the other deal I am thinking of).

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@number6 Quote:

Quote: BTW, do you think we have forgotten that you claimed to have given Hyperion a prototype board of Amy (or was Panda?) to port OS4 to, yet they confirmed to have never received such a board? I suggest you reread those threads and pay closer attention to the exact wording and the message being conveyed.

Please tell me how I am supposed to interpret the following quote attributed to Troika here (post #9 by Tuxedo), here (post #1 by jahc), and here (post #50 by hatschi):
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These boards have been sent to Hyperion already for OS4 porting and driver writing.

(edit: This quote originated from a post by tomazkid in an official AmigaWorld thread by tomazkid, and was only removed due to Rogue's request - see below.)

To which Rogue said the following here:
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it was not correct, Hyperion has not received any Amy'05 or Panda board from Troika. The last thing I would like to see is people shying away from buying a SAM because they think that there is any work going on on a G3 or G4 based board.

edit: It is also worth reading what Rogue has to say to Troika's rebuttal here.

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Troika have made more information available on Amigans.net, perhaps because they didn't like the reception they got here...
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Part 2 Starting point for Athena is the Freescale model MPC8349E-mITXE reference board This is one of our Software development and testing systems used in our development program. Basing Athena on a very reliable reference design has allowed us a working system running Linux from day one. Mods note: This image is too large, click the link to view it separately Picture 1 The case is an Antec Aria case, shown inside is the reference design motherboard and the graphics card used is a Radeon HIS9250. All components used to build this system, including the graphics card, were procured from Misco. A suitable card is http://www.misco.co.uk/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=236374&CatId=2694, good value at £31.31 inc VAT. Mods note: Again, click the link for the picture Picture 2 We hope you have enjoyed this "Sneak Peak"

Most interesting are the pictures they provide, which are different (and closer), so you can get a real good look at the reference motherboard they are using.

BTW, us many disbelievers here are now apparently labelled "trolls" by Troika:
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any bashing is worth it. Sides trolls will be around no matter what right?

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@ChrisH

don't mind being called 'troll' by people that can't see what's going on here. Maybe they lack few people skilled in electronic design tha we have here?

Edit: Oh, Atheist seems to enjoy idea of Amy'07 or whatever this new scam is called. That seals the deal for me.

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@ChrisH

I changed the pics to make them smaller. However, the original images were not THAT great, in my opinion, which is why I 'suggested' to Troika to edit his postings with a link to his site where his images were posted, hoping for a higher quality image, frankly. Fine, I'll go back and place the image links next to the original pics, I have nothing better to do with my time today... (...and please note, ChrisH, this is NOT a dig at you but it IS a dig at Josh or whoever posted the original images.)

As for being labeled a 'troll' simply because people are showing skepticism and requesting clarification... Caveat emptor; it should be engraved upon everyone's brain by now.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Well, in my opinion, anyway.

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I don't think Troika is a scam or intending to cheat us in any way. My guess is that they are more or less a one man company setup to see whether it would be an idea to put a modified reference board into production.

Perhaps they should get someone else to do their PR and understand that polls are useless as market research.

I don't see anyone trolling in here, people are just naturally skeptical towards announcements from people who has a history like Troika. I do understand that things sometimes don't go as planned and thats ok, but Troika should also understand why people are skeptical.

@Troika

1. Have you had contact with Hyperion regarding this board.
2. When will the boards be put to sale, if you decide to go ahead.
3. Will OS4.1 be available
4. Do you have any connections with Amiga Inc or ACK?

Simple questions, please answer

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@Troika

> Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?

No, but I might buy an enduser mainboard for that price. But only AFTER I have seen OS4 run on it, of course.

Kind regards,

Dennis

@ChrisH

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Really? I don't recall ever seeing an announcement from Amiga Inc (or ACK) that they had terminated their agreement, or even changed plans. How do you know this? BTW, such info could be very relevant for the court case. It would make the ACK stuff sound like (another) deal seemingly created to give the court the impression Amiga Inc were a serious company (the Kent farce being the other deal I am thinking of).

Sundown is probably just repeating what I said earlier in this thread.

My initial post on this was last year.
here

At the time, there were a lot of threads talking about "wait for [insert hardware idea here]".
I felt it best to clarify that waiting for Adam was not the best idea for anyone's sake.

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@ChrisH

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Please tell me how I am supposed to interpret

etc.

Indeed.

In that vein of confusion an official hardware thread was updated and made "sticky" in the "Amiga OS Hardware" forum.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=21319&forum=33&11

The developers are aware they can contact staff to have any data in that thread updated/changed. Whether they do so, however, is their choice.

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@Troika

Deliver to me 2 TWO Mobos

A: 2 Ghz min with Pci graphics slot
B: Hyperion blessed ( With O/s 4 > )

And I will hold Big Bash FIVE

The first Mobo will be in the Revolving case that Rigo made. Yes I still have it in my garage.
The second Mobo will be a fully installed and running version for people to "fiddle about" with

We could even raffle off the Mobo display at the end of the night.


Balls in your court.

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@Troels

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I don't think Troika is a scam or intending to cheat us in any way. My guess is that they are more or less a one man company setup to see whether it would be an idea to put a modified reference board into production.

Troika = bedroom company

That's my impression by looking at these picture here

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Yo wrote: @Totally_Blind_Mule Quote: Totally_Blind_Mule wrote: Y A V P B T Yet Another Victory Posting by Troika? Am I close?

Yet Another Vile Post by Troika?

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Yet Another Vapor Product By Troika?

Dammy

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damocles wrote: @fairlanefastback Yet Another Vapor Product By Troika? Dammy

I bet thats it.

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yes you are :)

@Troika

i not buy this low end hardware, for now there is a sam440ep or flex, i WANT High End hardware: cpu@1ghz/2ghz or better with pci express, only with this new hardware i think of change my uA1.

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@All

Call me a troll, but... how can anyone belive thease teasers from Troika, over and over again?

Pancakes FUD
Pancakes FUD
Pancakes FUD

Pancakes FUD
Pancakes FUD
Pancakes FUD

Pancakes FUD
Pancakes FUD
Pancakes FUD

My opinion in this matter...

@Troika

Again, I understand price is right. Board is position way below SAM and is only slightly improved ovee Triuka specs.
Only in developer state, SAM is much mature now.

I votred YES just because we need more hardware.
http://www.troikang.com/spec.html

About specs

I assume CPU is still G3 (PowerPC 750) which should give nice performance
even at 500-700Mhz
DDR RAM is improvenent over SDRAM
Also 1GB Ethernet and SATA are welcome.

Overall nice performance not only budget board.

However, PCI slot is limiting in GFX choice,
so I would like to see SAM conparab;e board woth Radeon 900 128MB as
mid price solution.

USb 2.0 would be welcomed if 5 or more slots,
or please add PS/2 too

CPU Array hsould be modular so you can put 1,1GHz G3 or buy it also as an high end option.

Is sound styl Kryptos? Please add something less kryptical adn well integrated.
Sound Blaster 128 or Gravis Ultrasound as low end and Sound Blaster Audiigy high end.

I hope it will also run PPC Linux and OS 4.1

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@Troels

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1. Have you had contact with Hyperion regarding this board. 2. When will the boards be put to sale, if you decide to go ahead. 3. Will OS4.1 be available 4. Do you have any connections with Amiga Inc or ACK? Simple questions, please answer

I doubt they can even respond to the first and third questions
Acube never did respond on those questions either and we knew nothing until it actually happened.
Hyperion seems very secret about what goes on behind the scenes anyways.