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Hyperionmp wrote: For the sake of clarity, the Hyperion management would like to point out that with respect to AmigaOS 4.x no license or distribution agreement with Troika or any Troika associates was entered into by Hyperion or is even being negotiated between the parties at this point.

And there you have it. We could have saved ourselves a 14 page thread.

@Troika - no OS4, no point.

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@Hyperionmp

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Hyperionmp wrote: For the sake of clarity, the Hyperion management would like to point out that with respect to AmigaOS 4.x no license or distribution agreement with Troika or any Troika associates was entered into by Hyperion or is even being negotiated between the parties at this point.

Translation: Don't hold off buying SAM in hopes of the cheaper Troika board just yet.

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@wegster

I'm waiting to hear what AInc have to say.... Maybe Troika got a license from them.

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@fairlanefastback

Good point!

@hyperionmp

No comment...

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@Hyperionmp

Always mysteries :(

@All

Last edited by redfox on 10-Feb-2009 at 11:40 PM.

@amitv

No mysteries, just a reminder to everyone that in the past countless announcements about hardware were made and never materialized.

Designing and producing hardware is something that only a handful of companies in the Amiga market can still do because all others lack the skill, the resources (capital) or a combination of both.

Currently A Cube is the only company producing and delivering (albeit a bit slow) working hardware to run AmigaOS 4.x on.

This may or may not change into the course of 2009 but for the foreseeable future this will remain the case.

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This may or may not change into the course of 2009 but for the foreseeable future this will remain the case.

What "may" come out in 2009? You can tell me.. I'm a police officer.

@jahc

What *may* come out is a PPC simulator for the C64, allowing OS4.1 to run on it.

But to a potential customer, I would suggest ordering a Sam *now*, because the waiting list is not likely to get any shorter and there isn't any likely alternative within the time frame of a Sam delivery.

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@troika

what the final result of this poll??

@amitv

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what the final result of this poll??

/me points to button at top labeled "results"

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Designing and producing hardware is something that only a handful of companies in the Amiga market can still do because all others lack the skill, the resources (capital) or a combination of both.

Especially fully-working hardware...

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@number6

I know

But the conclusions of the troika???

Last edited by amitv on 13-Feb-2009 at 07:23 PM.

@amitv

We waiting as allways for news,conclusions, site updates and rest from all Troika, Hyperion...Elbox..

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Hercules??

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Key Features: * MPC8536E PowerQUICC® III processor * 512 MB DDR2 DIMM * Two SATA connectors (Type I and Type L) * Three PCI Express slots, one PCI slot with dynamic support of 33 MHz and 66 MHz cards * Three USB connectors (two host and one device) * Two SD media slots * Four eSPI EEPROMs (64 MB total) * Two 10/100/1000 Ethernet connectors * SGMII riser card slot (SGMII-RISER) * Real-time clock * Two RS232 connectors * JTAG header * 128 MB NOR flash memory, GB NAND flash memory * Power and temperature monitoring circuitry

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If you ever wondered why the Amiga user base is shrinking while other alternative / classic platforms are successful or even growing you need only look at this thread.

So Troika are "small time", they're not a big well resource company. They're probably a one or two man show and yes they've screwed things up.

However, they are one of the very few actually trying something.

If someone trying to build something gets nothing but a barrage of insults, how do you expect anyone to get interested in building hardware? Or for that matter, how do you expect anyone to provide anything for the Amiga market at all?

The market is now so small all you are going to get is small bedroom companies building low end, expensive hardware. If you drive them away you'll end up with NO new hardware.

The Amiga may not be dead but - yet - but there's a hearse waiting at the front door.
This is a rather ignominious end for what was once a great, advanced and well loved platform.
However, worst of all, it won't be killed by stupidity of the the companies involved, (and some have been *really* stupid) it will be killed by the stupidity of its users.

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@amitv

Make that chip a G4/e600 core and I'd be in love. As it is, I'm quite taken wiht it anyway.

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@amitv

Wow, that's a nice board. I wouldn't mind paying $700-$800 for that. e500 is what, G3 class? at 1GHz+ and with PCie and SATA buses, that should be quite a nice upgrade for any existing next-gen amiga.

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minator wrote: If you ever wondered why the Amiga user base is shrinking while other alternative / classic platforms are successful or even growing you need only look at this thread. So Troika are "small time", they're not a big well resource company. They're probably a one or two man show and yes they've screwed things up. However, they are one of the very few actually trying something. If someone trying to build something gets nothing but a barrage of insults, how do you expect anyone to get interested in building hardware? Or for that matter, how do you expect anyone to provide anything for the Amiga market at all? The market is now so small all you are going to get is small bedroom companies building low end, expensive hardware. If you drive them away you'll end up with NO new hardware. The Amiga may not be dead but - yet - but there's a hearse waiting at the front door. This is a rather ignominious end for what was once a great, advanced and well loved platform. However, worst of all, it won't be killed by stupidity of the the companies involved, (and some have been *really* stupid) it will be killed by the stupidity of its users.

Unfortunately, I got the same feeling. SAD.

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