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Poll : Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
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Re: [Poll] Would you purchase an Amy Developer MB for $300-350 US /227 Euro?
Posted on 5-Feb-2009 13:25:37
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@arnljot
I took it to mean "I wouldn't touch Troika with a barge pole".

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@Troika

Like many others I already have a mid range system with my XE and a lowend model with my A1200+ BPPC.

Maybe something based on the MPC86XX range or a standalone cell board would temp me to upgrade. But I'd rather have OS4.1 for PS3.

Just remember news like this is still in peoples minds.

http://www.amiga.com/news/index.php?art=28

I do hope you have chosen your partners a bit more carefully this time.

Best of luck but if its on par with the SAM then I'd have to vote No.

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@ChrisH

There it goes to show how helpfull it is with "fun" poll options. I really like pancakes, so I thought it meant "cool" or "awesome".

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Posted on 5-Feb-2009 13:50:51
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I voted Pancakes.
Why? Because I'm not going to buy one, but I would if I didn't already have two OS 4 machines (A4000 and A1 G4) - hence I'm not really in the market. And I like pancakes, especially with lots of sugar on top.

As for the board, show us it working and then come back. We've seen way too many specs and vapour to believe anything else. When you have a board in someone's hands running OS4, and YouTube videos to prove it, then we'll be happy. Until then you're just vapour, same as all the rest.

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@JurassicC

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Just remember news like this is still in peoples minds.

http://www.amiga.com/news/index.php?art=28

I do hope you have chosen your partners a bit more carefully this time.


Pardon, but it is misleading to say "this time", preceeded by a link to an AI announcement about ACK.

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@number6

Didn't mean to be misleading but I was under the impression that it was ACK that was used to assemble the AMY05 prototypes and that was the reason behind the no shows at show like BB.
Give the Amiga ACK annoucement I hope they get a product out this time.

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1ghz simply wont cut it, when they are trying to push to the limits during ports of bigger gear out there.


I'm sure they'd love to give you a high-end board. For us small fries, that's difficult to do. Look at the public opinion of the price tag on Sam440. A lot of talk aotu it being really really expensive. I'm imagining what I'd do for a fantasy system spec if I was makign anything. Look up some prices on the components. Some things are suprisingly cheap, such as AMD SB600 for US$11. (avnet.com) The 8610 varied from $160 to over $600. Considering public opinion of really high priced stuff, I'd go with the lower-end 8610 if I can, it may not be ROHS so I'd have to go with a $200-some 8610 to sell it outside USA. I'd love to go high-end, but it adds too much to the cost. I'd also prefer 8640, but that also adds too much to cost. You have to make some tough decisions to make an acceptable product that people can actually pay for. If we could more easily get things ported to Macs or other larger market PowerPC systems, that would be great. Util something like that happens, we're back to the Amiga tax, things costing 10x their large market PC equivalents. I'm just happy we can now make use of a lot of the addon peripheral cards from that larger PC market, we're just stuck with expensive motherbaords.

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@JurassicC

Actually, if anyone is misleading, it is (as per always) Amiga Inc., since ACK is not working for OR with them.
I've posted that previously.

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@billt

The YDL Powerstation is priced rather nicely IMHO.

How can they achieve that price, is it leftovers from a large production run or do they actually sell enough to keep the price so low.
I begin to think that it would be a good target IF we knew whether it would be available in the future.

SAM + YDL Powerstation + a notebook and we would be covered better than ever before IMHO.

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Can someone please give Rogue a YDL PowerStation?

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@Troika NG : the key is the price with your product. With 500$ for a complete system, it will be ok. More, it will not be considered as an entry-level product. Perhaps soon the Efika 5200B will run AmigaOS 4.1, so you will compete with the lowest system for Amiga available (99$ the board).

Are you interested by a MPC8610/8640 machine ?

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I think the price is acceptable.

But first you need working systems that can Boot Linux or some thing; just a prof of concept, then you need to get Hyperion interested.

But Pegeasus II and AmigaONE-XE owners have where similar computers, so in order for this to be a success you need at least a 1.5 Ghz, and a PCI Express slot.

Or maybe you’re targeting the system at Elfika and Sam440ep users that like to upgrade?

I’m not going to buy it I’m going to be unemployed where soon, if don’t find my self a new job, so this not the right time for me, my company decided to cut back on staff (1/3).

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@Troika

I suggest you look through the comments in the thread "What should entry level hardware look like?"

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=17229&forum=33#263927

You may be surprised to find out that many in 2006 thought an entry level Amiga should start at 1Ghz.

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Pci or Agp??????


Anything AGP would likely be PCI, as in the Pegasos2. I really wish we'd all forget about AGP for PowerPC and start demanding PCI-Express instead. :p

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In the topic "OS4 for Efika" Rogue stated that they are working on something that is going to take his time for the next 12 Months ... unless this is it, I doubt they will put time in yet another entry level board for the time being and if they do I wouldn't be to happy when my name was Acube.

Ofcours I do want to see it happen and maybe Troika can also contact the MorphOS team... but what are the chances ?

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@billt

word.
I really wish we'd all forget about AGP for PowerPC and start demanding PCI-Express instead. :p

true true true.

another thing the amiga ng marked is to smal for self destrktion...
aboard like this or the efika board will just sabotage acube´s buisniess.
and will be a stop to make new more moderen hardware.

its iractional that pepole are trying to steal others custmers.the amiga hardware indrustry should kordinate.

wee make this you make that. and make deals with the same partners to get the coast down on chips.

lets say one batch 1000 coast x and 500 coast y
the one company who was gonna sell 1000 sudanli cant sell 1000 and has to pay the price of y. and 4 mounth later pay y agen.

the marked is to small for war...

acube has made the sam.. and put money in os 4.x delvopment
efika hasent put money in os 4.x delvopment.
alot of pepole will buy efika and not sam. with will bring up the coast on production of sam with will coast the usser more money iff acube shall make some profit beside that production coast. another thing
sudanli wee have 5 boards wihh low suport. on them all.an after a periode there drops out of production like the amiga one and then wee have the no hardware sitration.












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@retro

wee already have a low end board......

iff the 1500 amiga one ussers and new sam/peg2 usseres is gonna be tempted to replace it with new,..

it has to be alot better hardware.

make a preorder thing and get production coast down....


the pa.semi board would have been nice....
but thats another wasted dream amiga inc...

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Troels wrote:
@billt

The YDL Powerstation is priced rather nicely IMHO.

How can they achieve that price, is it leftovers from a large production run or do they actually sell enough to keep the price so low.
I begin to think that it would be a good target IF we knew whether it would be available in the future.

SAM + YDL Powerstation + a notebook and we would be covered better than ever before IMHO.


Because (I believe so) YDL powerstation are rebranded (refurbished?) IBM PowerPC Servers

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@Troika

I don't know...it sounds like a new vapor story to me. You should better come back when you have a working and running prototype with some pictures or videos. Showing some half-finished pcb file which doesn't seem to be in any standard form factor isn't enough. So from what I can see and read I have to say 'no, I won't buy it'.

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Showing some half-finished pcb file which doesn't seem to be in any standard form factor isn't enough.


It's MicroATX Just like this Freescale reference board.

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