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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 26-Mar-2009 19:37:30
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@broadblues
Thank you for your post, gives me chance to clarify that you should only pledge what you could honestly pay out (and be willing to pay out of course), that way the end figure is as accurate as it can be. Are you sure I can't tempt you to pledge that $0.50?

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DiskDoctor 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 26-Mar-2009 22:38:16
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@HenryCase

I would pledge like 100$ if my hp 530 could handle that.

I do not want theoretical x86 OS. "Should work on your every PC fine"? ####!
x86 means x86, not the iMica x86, not the x87 x86. Thus...

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!

I personally think ALL people replying here with some money define OS4 x86 as a system to be run ON THEIR CURRENT PCs. Am I right or I am right? If I was to get another PC just for AOS4... This would completely suck dude. Then, my pledge is just $0,0099 just to assure annoyance.

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CodeSmith 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 1:29:07
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@HenryCase

Quote:

HenryCase wrote:
@CodeSmith
The proposed bounty is is for getting x86 OS4 in any form, not in a specific form (though would say targetting a budget and high end system like the classic A500/A2000 split would be best IMO).

That's precisely the problem. The x86 world is too huge, so unless you narrow it down you're not going anywhere. That's why when Apple went x86 they chose one supplier for their CPUs and chipsets, when every other large x86 vendor mixes and matches components to get the best deal. Dell can just use an AMD64 with a Via chipset in one system and a Core 2 with an Nvidia chipset in the next because someone else is writing the drivers. Apple needs to write their own software support, so they narrow things down to a manageable size. That's exactly what AROS needs to do; catering to all possible permutations of CPUs and chipsets is asking for failure.

Last edited by CodeSmith on 27-Mar-2009 at 01:29 AM.

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Gebrochen 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 2:39:51
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@HenryCase

F*C* x86, its time for a new era.

ARM VS CORE.

I THink I'll go ARM

(Smiles) hahahaha

Man I miss total annihilation.

Seriously though, here everyones talking about x86, well, what if ARM is the future, the new way to go, and that ARM will start overtaking x86 type gear.

Lets think about this :

ARM is everywhere already, and now they want to make notebooks. I think its a sign for Amiga OS 4.x to get somewhere again, ahead of its competition perhaps??

I dont know, But Im not wasting money on x86 port shet. Screw that.

I wouldnt "waste it on a broke dick dog" (Predator - smiles again)

ahhahaaha. Cheers. and Enjoy this useless porting. I mean, Macs are shetter on x86 than they were on 2.5ghz PPC machines. IMHO anyway.

Now if Mac has a lot of bugs, with more developers on it, DAMN, I would hate to ruin the image of the remaining amiga community.

Cheers again.

AND

LETS GO [ ARM ] POWER.


And no need to take life so serious.

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TheDungeonDelver 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 4:02:10
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@Gebrochen

Your "O" is colossally uninformed and entirely benighted. But please, tell us exactly how multi-core intel CPUs are outperformed by lower clock speed, lower bus bandwidth single core PPC CPUs. I'm dying to hear this.

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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 8:47:57
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@DiskDoctor, @CodeSmith, @Gebrochen

Do you read? I'm going to explain this to you S L O W L Y... The aim of this thread (as fairlanefastback already explained) is to show that x86 OS4 is not going to happen because the funds aren't there to support its development. I recommend you read his posts again because it's all there.

If you must have a target system, here you go, now STFU:
http://www.alienware.co.uk/product_detail_pages/Aurora/aurora_overview.aspx?SysCode=PC-EU-AURORA-R5&SubCode=SKU-DEFAULT

@all
Running total... $13786.27 USD.

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TheDaddy 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 8:55:33
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@everyone

Maybe I got bored of reading all these posts and I missed it but where does it say that PowerPC is dead?

Link please?

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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 9:23:49
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@TheDaddy
Read the thread.

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TheDaddy 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 9:29:17
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@HenryCase

>>OS4 x86 Bounty

So?

Where does it say that PPC is dead?

OS4 x86 bounty? Is it because PPC development has been abandoned?

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BillE 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 10:00:06
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@HenryCase



Quote:
Anyway, so far we've reached $13186.27 USD (at current exchange rates), my my my aren't we right on target.


No you haven't.

You have so many people SAY they are going to give you that much. Given the track record of this site, the difference between what people say and what they eventually do is astronomical in proportion.

You will be lucky to get 5p out of the tight fisted buggers that want everything but want to pay for nothing. Come back when you have some real figures, otherwise you are no better than Bill McEwen with his outlandish guesses as to how succesful amiga Inc is.

Of course, any money would be far better spent buying hardware that actually exists and does run Amiga OS4 now.

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Hammer 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 10:19:59
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Quote:

AmiDog wrote:
Can I add a negative amount?

I rarely bother to read these threads, after all, what's the point? What makes you think a custom x86 board would be any cheaper than a custom PPC board, as, after all, Hyperion simply can't support a zillion different hardware setups, so it would still have to be a single (or small amount of) selected boards, which, by the time the OS has gotten the required drivers etc, will be outdated and people will keep crying about how expensive and underpower it is...

Personally I hate doing lowlevel coding for x86. Can't stand wasting time in 2009 with an 8-register CPU...

2009 X86 (supporting X64) supports 16 registers via Long Mode.

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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 10:53:26
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@BillE
Read the thread you ignorant fool.

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TheDaddy 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 11:00:08
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@HenryCase

>>Read the thread you ignorant fool.

That is a bit harsh...

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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 11:04:36
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@TheDaddy
If you read the thread you'd see why I shouldn't have to constantly explain that this thread is a reality check for the x86 fans. Being kind to people that haven't got the courtesy to take the time to understand what I'm doing here (it's pretty blatant, if you can't be bothered to read all the posts, read fairlanefastback's posts on page 2, he seems to be one of the few smart enough to get it so far) isn't on my to-do list. Seriously, read those posts!

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BillE 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 11:04:37
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@HenryCase

Quote:
Read the thread you ignorant fool.


You have been reported !
No need to get nasty now was there.

I have read the thread and it is pointless.

Just getting a lot of people that talk a lot yet do nothing other than mouth on about x86 continually, to "pledge" huge sums of money that they do not have and will not give - means nothing.

If you think anything is going to come of this my friend then you are the ignorant one.



Bill.

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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 11:08:43
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@BillE
I don't care if I've been reported, but thanks for having the courtesy for telling me anyway. If you had read the thread you wouldn't have got the response you did, simple as that. Seems like you still don't understand the point of the thread. Let me make it clear for you as you are clearly too lazy to read the posts I constantly refer to...

Quote:
fairlanefastback wrote:
I believe he is trying to make a point (that you are missing).

The point being lets take a low-ball number like $500,000 and see if we can even muster that MINIMUM as a *ballpark*. Henry I am sure if quite aware he will not see that amount of pledges, not seriously anyway.

The point being the community could never do this, no matter how much it wishes it. And since Hyperion is unlikely to have such a wealthy benefactor on its own its time to realize we have probably forever missed the boat on x86 and should in the meantime enjoy PPC as much as we can, and if we want x86 so bad we should get more behind AROS.

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fingus 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 11:38:32
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your are mad!

we have aros and dont need another unfinished unstable x86 amiga os clone.

stay serious!

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whose 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 11:48:26
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@fingus

Keep cool... he tries to explain to people that an x86 port won´t be funded properly, hence he started this bounty request to actually show, that a real world figure of funding money won´t be reached with those few people willing to pay for a OS4.x x86

Regards

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HenryCase 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 12:02:27
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@whose
Thank you whose.

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Yssing 
Re: OS4 x86 Bounty
Posted on 27-Mar-2009 12:17:20
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@HenryCase

Personally I would not want to spend 1C on x86 port.

Other than that, what is the point.. you do know that its not going to happen right?

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