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Birbo 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 7:30:29
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More than 1000 Posts!!!!!

Congratulations!!!!

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Hypex 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 7:46:58
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@Wildstar128

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Making an AmigaOS 4.x for x86 shouldn't be that hard. Choose a common nVidia or ATI video card and make a standard nVidia support driver that would work on a number of nVidia card for PCI-X. Make a AmigaOS equivelent of Windows XPs generic SVGA video driver that works with various standard SVGA video modes and color depth that works on virtually every video cards. There is a base set driver out and that all video cards today has a higher base level of video modes supported. Nowadays, we can have a driver that runs at 1280 x 1024 x 32bpp and run on every video card produced. It is an unoptimized card but every video card supports these modes. So it will run right out of the box.t


I thought this would enable to UBoot to have full colour graphic display.

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Choose a moderboard with an onboard sound chip (Creative Labs) and port the drivers over to AmigaOS. As time moves forward, we can have a optimized drive


We already have AHI drivers fo that. But we do need hardware optimised drivers.

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Basic chipset drivers should be packaged and we should support the common chipset like the Intel chipset and VIA chipset. This is for your Northbridge & Southbridge chips. You don't have to have absolute optimized out of the box.


Now can I stop you there. Thr A1 has a VIA chipset, but this isn't properly supported with our drivers. IIRC UBoot is meant to initialise the chipset a certain way. And the drivers do the rest. But something messed up on the A1 as although hardware was bought from VIA, our programmers didn't have the docs to program the VIA. Hence, we got problems from it.

Now, provided a BIOS is going to initialise the chipset for us, that leaves drivers. AROS and Linux can get past it. But could OS4 have support for Intel drivers? We need hardware to work, without requiring a closed source driver. And beter that it works as it should rather than be in a legacy safe and slow mode. After all, the point of x86 would be to make full use of the hardware, to tkae advantage of the speed.

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Hypex 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 7:59:31
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@ne_one

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If you need compatibility with hardware and software from before 1995 then ebay is the solution. And that endian orientation argument has been done to death. It's simply an inconvience not a deterrent. Certainly not something that would require 7 years to overcome, let alone 7 weeks.


That doesn't help the OS. OS4 is not fully native. Rexx is 68k, as are some programs in Prefs. Not much. But they will require replacement or some 68k emulator sandbox that can transparently run programs in UAE fashion but using OS4 windows and screens.

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The real problem is that time (and apparently $2 million) has been spent on migration to the PPC and feature creep while the OS should have been rearchitected from scratch to be platform agnostic and based on a Linux core.


Good grief!

Linux? Do you propose they take the Apple idea and apply it to Amiga? If we are not going to use our own kernel then why don't we just use the Amiga OS5 kernel while we are at it?

But, although OS4 features assembly, they did spend time to rearchitecture the code so it was in C and C compatible as much as possible in case no one has noticed.

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Hypex 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 8:07:51
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@marko

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Quote:HyperionMP wrote:Nonetheless AmigaOS 4.x development is proceeding all the time and very nicely with several very major milestones within reach in Q4 of 2009.


Oh crap! We'll be discussing this until Christmas!

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Cool_amigaN 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 8:21:48
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@all

Come on, 19 more posts needed to break the barrier of first thread! Go,go,go!

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Birbo 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 8:38:35
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@Cool_amigaN

Here is my post:

“Don't worry about life, you're not going to survive it anyway.”

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wajdy 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 9:42:53
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Which means : Until Christmas, there will be no exciting news to talk about, since we are not expecting anything from Amiga, Inc.

As if we will be disappointed if this Secret Project get further delayed!!!

It is voting time: Do you think it is a must for Hyperion to show it's Road Map ?

Waj



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tomazkid 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 4-Aug-2009 10:04:09
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Discussion continues in this thread here.

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