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Gebrochen 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 12:31:18
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@VidarL

Your posting reminds me of a saying,

No matter how many of something there is, that does not mean that it is good or better, but simply may have had more financial backing to grow.

For example = FORD, many of. Lamborghini Less Of.

Ultimately Id rather the Lamborghini. (Or in my case Ive always been a fan of Porsche)

Anyway, PPC is still being developed though, so obviously some markets see an advantage with such hardware architecture. Not saying for OS wise necessarily here, just a general comment.

Whats your take on, think it was, SPE??????

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 12:40:16
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Gebrochen wrote:
@bernd_afa

Sorry, everytime I try to load your posting, it isnt loading and is giving me an error to the link youve supplied. I was just trying to see what you are raving on about?

Cheers.


maybe the link is too long.it is direct link to Hyperion games page.i notice too it not work on firefox

i remove the direct link and write link on Hyperion homepage and what button you must press to reach the page on which gorky17 is announced for OS4 comming soon.

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/

then press games button(on left main menu) and look on gorky17, here stand coming soon for OS4.but as rogue say, there are no ports plan ......

link to old full post

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=29177&forum=2&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0#499862

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Gebrochen 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 12:50:36
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@bernd_afa

Actually this is old news. Of which, I am geussing it is like what I did with our website, simply carried over many things to the new site, text wise, picture wise, etc.

If Im not mistaken, and perhaps I shouldnt let this slip, but it should be alright, after emailing, it is evidently clear that they are not expecting to continue the port for this game any time soon, this was in response to an email I sent many months ago though.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 13:29:47
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@CodeSmith

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Personally, I'd consider news that the lawsuit is finally over to be better than any technological leaps the OS4 team makes. It doesn't matter if OS4 can run on a quad-core 970 if Amiga Inc decides to stop all sales.


Same here!

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 13:52:47
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@elatour

,,,and how exactly can Amiga Inc stop all sales?

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elatour 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:03:35
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@VidarL

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What does PowerPC offer potensial customers that x86 or even ARM doesn't offer at much better performance and/or price? Seriously, I'm curious how you can have such a viewpoint..


I learned a long time ago to stop trying to understand or even argue with Hyperion's logic on this and many other things for that matter - these are usually met with abuse or ridicule - eventhough they have been proven wrong time and time again. I'm guessing this "announcement" will not be anything monumental, just something that will be welcome/well received by most, which when offered to a starving audience is not all that hard to do. After all, improvements, even minor ones, are hardly ever recieved negatively under these type of conditions.

However, having said this, note that he nor has Rogue specifically ruled out an ARM port - at least not to my knowledge - as being what is behind the announcement. They have now changed the party line to "the PowerPC will continue to be their primary focus with other ones being an after thought," which is a huge change from what I have seen from in the past decade. Also, unless these guys specically rule out an ARM port in this thread, this does still leave it on the table as a remote possibility in being the super duper secret project.

Gotta love those announcements of annoucements. They certainly have the desired effect of keeping the spotlight on Hyperion. I guess it's more entertaining than the usual update on the AInc and Hyperion legal battle.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:11:23
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@MassiveAttack

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,,,and how exactly can Amiga Inc stop all sales?


What I was agreeing on was what we would rather see being announced - an end to the legal battle. He does however have a point in that if the legal battle is not resolved, it probably makes it harder for Hyperion to do too much to OS4, including picking new hardware platforms to run it on. But please, let's not get into a battle over what AInc. should/could or shouldn't/couldn't do, it would be purely speculative, off-topic, and quite a bore at any rate seeing as this has been discussed and argued over a million times already on AW.NET.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:19:02
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@Hyperionmp

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Proof of the pudding will be in eating later this year.


That would be the year 2009, right?

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:36:44
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@elatour

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I learned a long time ago to stop trying to understand or even argue with Hyperion's logic on this and many other things for that matter - these are usually met with abuse or ridicule - eventhough they have been proven wrong time and time again.


If you are met with true abuse and ridicule report it. Don't hold some grudge where you'll now come on here and tell the entire board that Hyperion's *opinion* is plain "wrong" and "has been proven wrong time and time again". Its a opinion after all, and everyone is entitled to their opinion.

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I'm guessing this "announcement" will not be anything monumental, just something that will be welcome/well received by most, which when offered to a starving audience is not all that hard to do. After all, improvements, even minor ones, are hardly ever recieved negatively under these type of conditions.


Did they say it would be monumental? NO. They said it was their "most ambitious project to date".

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as a remote possibility in being the super duper secret project.


If its their "super duper secret project" then why did they tell us all about it? It seems you are going out of your way to be sarcastic.

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Gotta love those announcements of annoucements. They certainly have the desired effect of keeping the spotlight on Hyperion.


So now you know their motivation behind when they wrote that phrase on their website to be able to declare its "desired effect" achieved? Thats just BS.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:39:44
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@umisef

Quote:

umisef wrote:
@Hyperionmp

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Proof of the pudding will be in eating later this year.


That would be the year 2009, right?


He did say *this* year. So thats 2009. Don't do anything more to give me the impression you are trying to bait them.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:43:38
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@fairlanefastback

You have a very interesting idea of what a moderator is.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 14:52:31
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@Kronos

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Well if someone writes stuff like "we are working on our most ambitious project" without telling what it is and does so for several months I would say we're close to defintion of "hype".


They put this on their webpage as they were re-doing it, they did not do a press release, they did not go on boards pointing it out. Its everyone else who has tried to dissect that single phrase 50 ways from Sunday. And they have not be "doing so for several months". They have responded to a couple of the questioning since the phrase was posted. Thats it. And the response does not look like its going to change.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:01:46
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You got me! Wait, now I see the ... there's art in you... 

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:06:11
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@Rogue

There are many was to handle PR. From a user POV a more open communication would be nice but I understand why circumstances sometimes make that difficult.

Like everyone else here I will be looking forward to see what you have been working on, good luck with the project (and don't waste too much time in this thread).

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Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:07:03
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@umisef

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That would be the year 2009, right?


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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:12:03
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@elatour

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elatour wrote:
@fairlanefastback

You have a very interesting idea of what a moderator is.


Perhaps. You have every right to your opinion. I don't believe I have actually moderated anything of yours ever.

But if you do have an issue with moderation, simply take it to PM with any mod of your choice.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:13:10
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@Rogue

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No one of you is right.

No one...



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You are mistaken.....

You are mistaken about a great many things

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:33:27
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@Kronos

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without telling what it is and does so for several months


This is what I meant with "different definitions of 'hype'". Saying nothing doesn't ... erm ... sound like a hype to me. But that's my definition.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 15:55:47
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@fairlanefastback

let me just say i disagree with your assesment.

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They put this on their webpage as they were re-doing it
Quote:
Its everyone else who has tried to dissect that single phrase 50 ways from Sunday


i would think hyperion knows us well enough to know a little info can spur a lot of hype.
playing coy only makes the rabid users even more rabid for info. creating more interest and hype while leaving the door open that they didn't announce anything. i mean do you really think they innocently put that up without any idea how it was gonna be blown out of proportion?

not that there is anything wrong with that. lots of companies play off their userbase.

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Posted on 10-Jul-2009 16:12:03
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The problem here is that Hyperion/Rogue just don't get it.......ALL WE WANT IS TO KNOW IF ITS AMIGA/OS4 RELATED......got damn!

So please Hyperion stop your nose up attitude about how hard it is with us users/potential buyers, and start spreading some smilies. Its okay you wont tell exactly what the project is about, even though some beans perhaps could be spilled, but its not okay you wont even bother tell us if its amiga related at all. Oh and I also think Kronos is right.....that you should tell more to such a tiny community. But if the project is of such a ambitious nature, then of course I understand you wont tell.

Good luck with the project......i hope its something for us and not some thingy for a spaceship....unless its OS4 of course

edit: added last sentence

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