@olegil

Quote:

olegil wrote: @Hans Quite possibly there is some timing effect involved. Like the Amiga vs Atari thingie where the Amiga clocked everything in sync with the PAL or NTSC master clock because of the extremely tricky DMA timing between chips on the board while the ST just had a CPU clocked at 8MHz and a video chip working on PAL/NTSC reference. The Wii is much closer to the Amiga than the ST in that regard. Here you can see a claim that the GPU also runs at 243MHz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii#Technical_specifications With very little GPU memory (just 3MB) it makes sense to tune both chips to the same FSB clock and do some trickery on the memory interface. Possibly the main CPU is leeching bandwidth off of the GPU memory controller or something cool like that. I don't think Broadway has an internal memory controller itself. But I could be wrong. It's been known to happen

Hollywood is on a 243MHz bus, yes, but has been shown to work internally at 486MHz. The Wii can do many graphical effects on a 480p widescreen that the GC simply would have crawled on. Even playing certain GC games that had framerate issues on the GC, don't have those issues when the GC disc is played on the Wii in GC mode as the gpu is not tuned down like the cpu.

Broadway is declocked to run at GC speed. It could also be up-clocked to run faster than the Wii does by the same methods. The clock is software programmable on G3 750 series cpus... In theory, you can write bootcode for the Wii's mini-ARM processor that is embedded inside Hollywood to boot the Wii cpu at a speed faster than 729MHz...though I would put a fan on it to play it safe.

New price:

http://us.fixstars.com/news/2009/2009-07-21.shtml

$1125 is good

@Hypex: I suggest you read that about SSE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE4

Btw MMX was introduced a long time before the G4's Altivec... and has nothing to do with that.

Quote:

It is here! I can survive longer with my faster PPC compared to a slower 68k.

It's not better... it's just faster... like AmigaOS would be on x86 when compared with PPC. So you 'll even long laster with an x86 if I follow your way of thinking...

_________________
http://www.warpdesign.fr/

@TheMaskedMuchacho

Slightly off topic...

Quote:

you can force some models of PPC mac to boot from a usb drive from the open firmware prompt. i forget what macs it works on but if i find the information i will pass it on

I believe I've tried this but you need a device 'ud' to be recognised on the Unix version of the dir command and the system did not find a 'ud' device with the USB drive attached (Iomega eGo 160gb). Game Over?

Last edited by BigD on 22-Jul-2009 at 08:01 PM.
Last edited by BigD on 22-Jul-2009 at 01:24 PM.

_________________
"Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art."
John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios

@OldFart

I don't believe it and do give a new guess...


OS4 for classic Amigas without PPC boards or the Minimig....

_________________
Bite Me!

@amitv

A good price, compared to the Sam, and the specs are much better then the Sam.

More important, you can buy it!

Last edited by bennymee on 22-Jul-2009 at 02:36 PM.

@TheDungeonDelver

Quote:

Err...no. By the time commodity PCI sound and graphic cards were available for the Amiga, the Amiga's native chipset had long since been eclipsed.

I mean the Amiga users, not the hardware. It seemed a bit nutty.

@umisef

Quote:

Could you expand on what Intel Mac you have seen such behaviour with?

Ah, yes. It was a MacBook Air. My friend's mother's computer. It wouldn't boot off the HD and the OSX DVD was stuck in the DVD drive. The owner couldn't turn it off IIRC. I held down the power button and it went off. Turned it back on and it did the same thing! Got stuck on the DVD that ws stuck in the drive. Eject did't work. In the end I had to look up the Apple keys to control the booting. Eventually I found the right key to select the boot drive, but it took a little while to crack it! It just wouldn't budge.

Quote:

Because between the various Mac laptops and the Mac Minis which I have had the pleasure of controlling, not one of them will even try to boot off the CD/DVD unless you specifically ask it to. Which, in the case of the minis, is rather annoying for us --- means we need to have a keyboard around when first installing them.

Being that I find it hard to use a computer without a keyboard in the first place I wouldn't find that a problem.

Unless it was a console.

@amitv

Quote:

amitv wrote: New price: http://us.fixstars.com/news/2009/2009-07-21.shtml $1125 is good

I´m tempted to buy one even if it never Run any Amiga like OS

_________________
No PowerPC, No Fun
Make Amiga Great Again

@Frek

Quote:

He's indeed making things up, while he's right Apple don't use their own implementation of OpenFirmware anylonger but EFI instead.

Making up which part?

Quote:

There is no support for VGA/VESA/Textmodes etc in Apples EFI, DVDs/CDs are indeed ignored if insert unless you explicitly select it in the boot chooser (holding down option/alt when power on) or hold down the C or D key.

If I had a camera on me at the time I would have takena picture to prove it! But as you know there is never a good camera around when a "UFO" gives you a visit.

@BigD

slightly off topic again...

it was years ago i did it but ub did have something to do with it and if i remember correctly it didnt work for me either but there was another more complicated way that required a pci address to point open firmware to the right drive.

a few macs would boot of usb in the usual way from the boot menu if there was a system installed on the drive, OSX wont allow you to install to a usb drive though so you have to be clever and clone it from a working hard drive or an image. never got that to work myself though so had to go the complicated route.

edit:

just found this , seems pretty much like what i did.

Last edited by TheMaskedMuchacho on 22-Jul-2009 at 07:04 PM.

_________________

@All

Hyperions most ambitious project to date...

More ambitíous than OS4.0... hmm
-Joining forces with Ainc to produce OS5.0 for any device...
-Rewriting OS4.2 for other processors
-Java for Amiga
-Getting AmigaOS out for mobilephones in cooperation with a large vendor

What else could there be...

Cheers, crawling back under my rock... :)

@Smurfen

Quote:

Smurfen wrote: @All -Getting AmigaOS out for mobilephones in cooperation with a large vendor

My bet on this

_________________
No PowerPC, No Fun
Make Amiga Great Again

@Smurfen

Quote:

What else could there be...

yoda speak on:

There is another....

_________________
"The system no longer works " -- Young Anakin Skywalker

@Hypex

Sorry, I kinda lost the thread here. Are we still complaining how useless it is to have an industry standard text mode BIOS with human readable command line (like U-Boot) or menus (like PC bios) or are we now on to complaining about the lack of sensibility in the fancy GUI-bootloaders on other platforms?

_________________
This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@olegil

Off topic:

You changed sig...

Oldfart

_________________
More then three levels of indigestion and you're scroomed!

@OldFart

yes. There was 6 pieces of hardware waiting for me at work today

_________________
This weeks pet peeve:
Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

i know, i know.

hyperion is working on a netbook based on sam440 :)

_________________

Quote:

-Getting AmigaOS out for mobilephones in cooperation with a large vendor

What are the advantages of current AmigaOS over *any* mobile phone OS available today. Just give me one ;)

Last edited by Leo on 22-Jul-2009 at 08:03 PM.

_________________
http://www.warpdesign.fr/

@TheMaskedMuchacho

Quote:

just found this , seems pretty much like what i did.

Yeah, the Open Firmware has to recognise 'ud' in the 'devalias' list! This didn't happen = Game Over? I already made a clone copy of OSX in readiness but can't get these instructions to work because 'ud' is not found!

_________________
"Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art."
John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios