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Rogue 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 6:01:55
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@QuBe

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secrecy just makes the wounds deeper...


In the past, everybody blamed all the discontent on delays and the usual "failed promise", not on secrecy. This is why Hyperion has adopted a strategy of only announcing what is sufficiently advanced to be announced; the Pegasos version is a good example, I am quite sure everybody was surprised about it.

The new project will be the same; it will be announced as soon as it is sufficiently advanced to be announced, because otherwise we will be reading all the "broken promises" threads again, or "It's ridiculous it took them X weeks", or "two more weeks(lots if line breaks) Sorry could not resist " kind of postings.

The project is ambitious, and I am absolutely certain it will be a surprise, and is going to be well received, but we're not going to announce it (at least not all of it) until we are almost certain about a release date.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 6:11:48
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@Rogue

I thought you were fairly intelligent.

So how can you expect ANY project of ANY type with ANY outcome in this market to be well received?

Edit: Maybe that's a hint on how ambitious you really are with this

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 6:42:49
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@Rogue

You are right... as it pains everyone to wait... I think the strategy is right now that I understand what you mean. Pointless to announce something that is not ready... maybe it is time to be excited again, for real :)

Maybe the only draw back is that the community cannot "add" ideas of sorts to what ever is planned; that community feed back is not there initially. However, the idea may be so good that when it is released, it will be accepted whole heartedly... :)

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Rogue 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 7:01:36
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@olegil

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So how can you expect ANY project of ANY type with ANY outcome in this market to be well received?


Well, the term "well received" should indicate that most people will like it. I know exactly that there will be some people that don't.

@QuBe

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Maybe the only draw back is that the community can "add" ideas of sorts to what ever is planned; that community feed back is not there initially. However, the idea may be so good that when it is released, it will be accepted whole heartedly... :)


You mean ideas like "port to x86" ?
I think there's already enough of those.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 7:06:46
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@Rogue

Well, there are always going to be nay-sayers. Know that there are still plenty of us who are rooting for you, even if we're mostly in lurk mode nowadays.

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RinceWynd 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 7:07:59
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@Rogue

I'd wager replacing Reaction would be ambitious and not well received by all.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
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@Rogue

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You mean ideas like "port to x86" ?
I think there's already enough of those.


In the rather unlikely event that one MIGHT have a constructive proposal for improvements, to whom should this be addressed?

P.s.: I just started a separate thread with this very quetion.

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QuBe 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
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@Rogue

LoL! Would love AmigaOS to run on juicy Cell processors with many cores... get us back into the 3D rendering multi-media space... had to say it

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 8:18:15
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@Rogue

Quote:

Rogue wrote:
@elatour

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I doubt Hyperion will do x86 given their loathing for the platform


Let me tell you I actually like AMD's Ahlon64 X2 CPU's. Really do. Nice CPU. My precious...

Er... I digress.


lol!

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 8:52:54
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Port of Duke Nukem Forever to AmigaOS!!

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 9:29:50
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@Condor

Naa... the secret project from hyperion will be "Lemmings":)

Hell yer!

That bloke from thingy , told me so he did!

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
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@Rogue

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Well, the term "well received" should indicate that most people will like it. I know exactly that there will be some people that don't.


Hi Rogue,

i don't want to contraddict you, but...

in this thread many have expressed their wish about many project that they dream or would have to have, i.e.: Port to PS3, Port to Cell, Port to PPC970, Port to other dual core system, port to X86, port to NATAMI, port to WII, port to a portable device, Port to arm - ports of software (open Office, Firefox, Java...), port of virtual machine (pear pc), SMP, 64 bit, multiprocessor and so on. Now, you have stated that is nothing that was sayd in those threads.... (correct my if i'm wrong)

Now i'm really curious of what can impress or can be part of an Amigan dreams if none of the above will materialize.

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Kronos 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 9:52:52
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@Rogue

Quote:


In the past, everybody blamed all the discontent on delays and the usual "failed promise", not on secrecy. This is why Hyperion has adopted a strategy of only announcing what is sufficiently advanced to be announced;


And you really think annoucing an announcement (which is how all these "secret Hyperion project" threads started) is a better idea ???

IMO it would be much better if everybody would either STFU or show what they are working on without adding to much hype into it .....

Take for example the MorphOS-MacMini-port, for a some time it was done in secret but when bigfoot saw it fit he demostrated it and was quite open about the actual status an what the priorities of the team were. An advanced version was later demonstrated by Frank Mariak and he too was quite open about the status of the thing.

Thats how PR should work in such a tiny community where everything is more an hobby than anything else.

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 9:56:29
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@Kronos

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IMO


The keyword.

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Kronos 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 10:00:48
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@Rogue

Wow, I'm really impressed .......

You could have answered the question instead, do you really think all these "good news soon" style hyping does you (OS4,Hyperion,whomever) any good ?

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Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 10:01:05
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@AmigaBlitter

I don't get the point you are trying to make.

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pavlor 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 10:02:08
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@Kronos

Mac Mini port is a very bad example. Long awaited... and some think it is only legend...

I think that current Hyperion PR is much better than this.

@Hyperion

Please, something portable, I don´t have enough space on my table...

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Troels 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 10:03:14
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@Rogue

IMO Kronos is right.......... (must be the first time I say that!)

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Kronos 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 10:09:21
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@pavlor

???

The OS4 port does exist (another example for endless "good news soon" hype that ended with no real result), but can only be optained illegally and is far to incomplete to be useable.

The MorphOS also exist, is pretty much functional, has been demoed several times. Interested users are kept in loop (more or less) and I fail to see how that should be worse than what Hyperion does with the "secret project". A tactic they started useing even before they started OS4 ....... and no I won't get any deeper into that, they archives are still there for everybody to read

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wajdy 
Re: the secret project of Hyperion
Posted on 10-Jul-2009 10:10:22
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@Rogue

If this is a port to a new Hardware, isn't it better to let us know so we plan for it?

I mean :
If someone is willing to buy a Mac, and the project is a port to AMD Athlon64 then this would influence his decision.

Consider it a "keep alive" signal.

Waj

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