@Al4

AOS on Nokia cell phone would be funny, because previously Nokia has used also AOS as the model/example for their self made OS. That "Amigalike" OS has still hundred millions of users....

UPDATE: here's part of that "Amiga" history documented:
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~albert/DIP/DIP.fm.html
(see especially chapter 2.4: "The operating system for BOAR was modelled after the Commodore AmigaOS [6, 23]." And the project was financed by several Nokia divisions.)

.... Too bad that AmigaOS was in the hands of total morons in late 90's. Otherwise it would have cost Nokia a lot less just to licence AmigaOS instead of copying it's features & maintain the OS inhouse AND then develop symbian AND .... Surely, with that money flow to AOS owner, we would have had AOS5 in around 1998...



Not to mention the periode with AmigaDE & NokiaMediaTerminal.


@other scandinavian cell phone "manufacturer"...

I know two other finnish manufacturers than Nokia, but I think both are dead, also the one with intent/DE.

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@wajdy

One would think that Ericsson would either buy, license or create their own phone OS. Perhaps something that would be able to interact with a PS3/PSP?

I don't see much point in OS4 on a mobile phone, I know the future is for portable devices and OS4 would fly on such device but it is not what I personally would like to see in the future.

Only positive thing is that I'm pretty certain of is, that if Sony Ericsson ordered Hyperion to make a phone OS based on AmigaOS then ownership is with Hyperion and not Amiga inc

/dreammode on
Although it would be cool to have an amiga phone i'd rather see improvements on the desktop. Perhaps the deal is that Hyperion delivers the OS for both phone and.... the new PS3slim. The new PS3 has the "otherOS" option removed so AmigaOS wouldn't even have any competition

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@Troels

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Only positive thing is that I'm pretty certain of is, that if Sony Ericsson ordered Hyperion to make a phone OS based on AmigaOS then ownership is with Hyperion and not Amiga inc

Like any significant corp is going to touch OS4 with it's associated legal issues? I don't think so or they need to find new attorneys ASAP.

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I find it amazing that a group of people can sit in the dark for so long and still think it's wrong to ask about the lights being switched on

2009 nearly 20010 and time has come and we ASK questions because we care and we want secure tomorrow for amiga.


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I want a growing AmigaOS community with a growing developer and application base.

mee too want to see AmigaOS shineUP once again.

Linux started small we was big that time but the developers made litle bee an elephant today.

We have stopped everthing and waiting for hyperian or other bedroom part time codders
to port killer apps to amiga & see if samOS4ppc(yesterdays hw) can handle todays apps
at that speed if not than people will jump from AmigaOS4 to Aros or Mos coz so far they look better than Sams hw and getting better every day.


i personaly love to see AmigaOS on better HW than sam without any limitation like 733 Mhz speed. How are we going to grow or pull more users to amiga by saying
people leave your 4ghz hw with OS has got all and come to amiga community use AmigaOS with no Java/Flash /Office Suit / Browser / Graphic/ music editors/ creaters etc
& be happy.

I`m not Saying sam is bad ppc hardware but ve have cheaper option and easy way to grow is port AmigaOS to x86 & grab Windowz / linux users who already got x86 & who can develop without buying extra HW(no body is going to buy samppc hw to try AmigaOS4) or develop but if AO4 exist at the HW they already got than we have chance to grow and thats how linux steal lot of windowz users and also mac seen that they need more userbase and went into x86 is well so if companies went to x86 from ppc than there must me a Real anwers to all that without any question.

i now its an hard work but help of cummunity & hyperian(they done a great job with AOS4 but why did they stayed with ppc unanswered question to all) limit us in discontinued ppc hw only.

Nothing is easy today we all say port to x86 is not easy yes its not its not but if we do realy want to grow again.


all that my own view & i dont work for MS but i do care about amigaOS today and we deserve to be in somewhere top not in discontinued dead ppc HW (to say amiga is back in dead ppc hw).i see what sam owners saying just like we done when we had a1200 said we said amiga is faster than pc even when we had 68k amigas but true reality was they where ahead of us & now we have very big distance plus we are alway going back instead of going forward.

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@Crumb

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Using a computer can involve something more than dragging windows and exchanging iconsets

That's why I said we need apps, not hardware.
If we don't have the apps, it doesn't matter how fast the underlying hardware is.

As extensive as your task list is, I would be interested in the apps used for those tasks, and which are OS4 native. It is OS4 native apps we need, not ports, or apps running on top of third party software.
As good, and welcome as they maybe, native will always be faster.

By the way, try warpview for your 10mp images, you might be surprised.

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@Troels

"The new PS3 has the "otherOS" option removed so AmigaOS wouldn't even have any competition"

So, that's the reason behind the removal.
AOS as the only OS of PS3. Not too bad.

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.... Too bad that AmigaOS was in the hands of total morons in late 90's.

but...but...
In 1998 and 1999 respectively, that same bunch fired Fleecy Moss and then Bill McEwen.
Judging from posts here concerning general sentiment over those folks, I think most people would call management of that time extremely insightful.

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@KimmoK

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So, that's the reason behind the removal. AOS as the only OS of PS3. Not too bad.

You didn't know Hyperion asked Sony to throw away Linux and ban it from the PS3
It would be quite nice if it was for real Only detail is that when Sony redesigned the PS3 they could have added 256MB+ extra RAM!

Anyway I don't believe AOS will be available for a phone or the PS3 anytime soon.. I think the Ambitious project is something different..

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@Kicko

Ack working alone

Soon new projects

@Kicko

you and amitv are kidding, right?

Just so we don't confuse those who never read prior postings...
Adam was only involved in the design phase and he left Amiga Inc. LONG ago.

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@Troels

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I don't see much point in OS4 on a mobile phone, I know the future is for portable devices and OS4 would fly on such device but it is not what I personally would like to see in the future.

Amiga Inc neglected desktop in favor of some mobile games, why ?
With millions of mobile phones sold everyday, I think it is the smartest/fastest funding plan.

Waj

@wajdy

Not to mention the money they're saving wearing cardboard boxes instead of cloths.

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@Al4

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The ambitious project is announced. nokia handheld.

Don't take too much notice of that "announcement". It was made by someone who is not part of the development team (so it's only a guess). The people who DO know (the development team) are not making announcements.

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A quote from Geoff Levand on http://lists.ozlabs.org/listinfo/cbe-oss-dev:

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Hi Elliot,

On 08/18/2009 01:06 PM, Elliot Orwells wrote:
> > In that case it opens the question as to if new(/old..) consoles will
> > still be produced and Linux support maintained.

Please be assured that SCE is committed to continue
the support for previously sold models that have the
"Install Other OS" feature and that this feature will
not be disabled in future firmware releases.

-Geoff

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@Al4

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Al4 wrote: @Hattig the ambitious project is announced. nokia handheld. i meant is it ARM?

Announced where?

This is the only reference that I've seen to Nokia announcing anything, but it would be pretty cool if it were true.

@wajdy

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Amiga Inc neglected desktop in favor of some mobile games, why ? With millions of mobile phones sold everyday, I think it is the smartest/fastest funding plan.

Yeah, it was a great success for Amiga Inc right??
Sorry to tell you that Amiga inc failed big time and they didn't even try to market an OS for the mobile phones only a series of games/content.

AmigaOS can't compete with Iphone or other new phone systems, it lacks far to much atm. But of course if they stroke a deal with Ericsson say a year ago they might have added what's needed, I just doubt it.

OS4 on such a device wouldn't interest me the slightest until the point where I need to replace my old Sony Ericsson mobile:)

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@damocles

I don't believe anything about a deal with Sony/Nokia. What I was trying to say was that IF Sony ordered anything from Hyperion, Sony would have cleared ownership 100% first.

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@damocles

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This past 12 or so months, direction of hardware has been established to a point in the AROS future via Genesi hardware.

Uhm... suckers!

Really, with all the available cheap hardware, why bother with Genesi?

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@Troels

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Troels wrote: @wajdy Quote: Amiga Inc neglected desktop in favor of some mobile games, why ? With millions of mobile phones sold everyday, I think it is the smartest/fastest funding plan. Yeah, it was a great success for Amiga Inc right?? Sorry to tell you that Amiga inc failed big time and they didn't even try to market an OS for the mobile phones only a series of games/content.

It was not a success because Amiga inc is a complete disaster but not because the idea is bad.Look at Apple, it gain more millions with the Iphone/ipod than on the desktop and thanks to Ipod/iphone sales it can continue improving the Desktop OS/hardware (and not the opposite)

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