@DiscreetFX

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Yup, making OS 4.1 work on virtual machines makes a ton of sense.

Only if you want more users and customers though. Heh.

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The way I understand this press release the removal of the otheros
feature is related to the new device and not to the new firmware.
Of course they may stop producing the older PS3 with that feature.

ciao

I wouldn't call making OS4 run on some VM Machine "ambitious"... MorphOS has already been running on VM machine since some time (a screenshot has been published).

And I don't see interest in it... Since the only benefits of running modern AmigaOS's can be seen in native hardware only (anything which requires some hardware acceleration, display speed, etc... gets downgraded when started from a virtual machine. Not to mention VM emulating PPC aren't that much widespreaded and mature, not to mention slow (QEmu)).

I wouldn't buy an OS to run it on a virtual machine for sure.. unless it's something which doesn't require graphics use, like server OS for example.

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@Leo

No matter what they come out with, someone will bitch, that's a given..

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@DiscreetFX

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Yup, making OS 4.1 work on virtual machines makes a ton of sense.

I'd prefer they would make it stable on real hardware first...

Virtualization would be nice though.

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by sundown on 18-Aug-2009 23:33:33 @Leo No matter what they come out with, someone will bitch, that's a given..

No matter what they come out with Leo will bitch, that's a given.

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@wawa

Didn't HyperionMP already make a post alluding to OS4 running on e500 based systems in the future.

@eXec

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Got it: http://www.c64forever.com/

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Hmmmmm..... another great Question. Something new...

Well the answer has to be like this:

Hyperion is working on AOS 4.2 to run on new, fast state-of-the-art hardware (wathever it will be - it has to be fast and new). That's it!

All the other things would be disappointing to me. Hyperion did a great Job developing AOS. Now it's time to run it on new, fast hardware.

SAM was a good start, but in my opinion it's not a solution the future.

So: Go on Hyperion! You all did great work!

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No matter what they come out with, someone will bitch, that's a given..

Sure... Maybe this guy is wrong, maybe he's not...

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No matter what they come out with Leo will bitch, that's a given.

Guess you'll have to wait for them to unveil their "most ambitious project to date" before saying that... Sorry ;)

And maybe you won't have to say it...

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My guess: Porting of Open Office. I believe to remember that Rogue once said (wrote) that he will do it himself if nobody will do it.

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My guess: Porting of Open Office. I believe to remember that Rogue once said (wrote) that he will do it himself if nobody will do it.

No he was not talking about porting OO but FireFox.

@Naz

I like the Italian beer in your avatar

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@balis

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27182&forum=32&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0#460134

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bitman wrote: @balis http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27182&forum=32&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0#460134

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Rogue wrote: @elwood Quote: When I use OWB and Netsurf I can't stop comparing these with Firefox and I always think "Wow!!!". Why that, exactly? As good as OWB is for Amiga (haven't tried Netsurf yet), it is lacking a lot of important features that Firefox has. Not trying to put it down, really, it's a lot of good work that went into it, but still, Firefox is way better. I can't help but think that people have the tendency to try and convince themselves that the grass is greener on this side. IMO it isn't. Getting Firefox onto the Amiga is a primary concern of me, and to be honest, if it doesn't happen soon then I am going to do it myself. I'm tempted.

If Rogue is temped to port it then I'm tempted to add $1000 to the bounty..

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@HammerD

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Well...for sure one thing it probably isn't going to be is OS4 for Playstation 3. Sony is removing the "Other OS" option with their 3.0 firmware... lame.

I don't believe they are going to remove it in a firmware update, reading the announcement:
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The new PS3 system will focus on...

It clearly is about the new hardware, rather than new firmware.

And just think of the "But I bought my PS3 only to run OtherOS!!!" class action lawsuit, if they did that

As has been said before, it wouldn't have made much sense anyway, due to highly restricted nature of the OtherOS environment, no graphics acceleration etc. (YES, I know that some have done some SPU coding to make graphics "less slow", but that still is not accelerated)

Interesting quote! I always assumed it wasn't Firefox, because (1) we already have OWB (which cannot be far from having the majority of features we want/need), and (2) Firefox would probably be dead slow. However, that quote from Rogue seems to indicate he doesn't see those reasons a valid, so maybe it is Firefox (it WOULD be ambitious).

But I still prefer the idea that they are working on a completely new "Amiga-like" OS design (that allows full memory protection, resource tracking, etc), which provides backwards compatibility by running OS4.1 within it's own "separate enviroment". Particularly since Rogue/etc has already discussed those plans in some detail in the past.

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PS: Open Office would make OS4.1 almost perfect!

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