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Birbo 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 13:50:47
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@Jupp3

You are right.

http://investors.nokia.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=107224&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1323410&highlight=

It's windows-based.

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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 13:53:00
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@Cool_amigaN

Press release? Why do you release an OS with a press?

We need a Software-Release not a Press-Release...

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Cool_amigaN 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 13:57:39
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@Birbo

OK, we will do that accordingly.

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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 13:58:14
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@Leo

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does it really change anything ? be it 16 years or 25 ?


Yes, the older is it, the less relevant to modern life.

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My point stands. So we can keep on going off subject... or see the real point.


That Noikia wouldn't run run OS4 on their phones or they wouldn't employ Hyperion to port an intended OS to their phones?

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And why do you guys always bring it to windows ?


My name is Legion, for we are many.

Hehe.

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since it sucks so much according to you what's the point in comparing it ?


I brought it up because Windows also had to go from one stage to another. I was going to use Mac but OS9 against OSX wasn't the same. So it wasn't a criticism. Just joking around the "seven year itch."

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Posted on 24-Aug-2009 14:02:10
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@damocles

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Actually, it's over 25 years old since it's based on TripOS


I think you are misreading here. I said AmigaOS, not AmigaDOS.

But I had hoped that Hyperion would have ported the latest CAOS to OS4 under the hood of the dos.library.

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I think it was ported to 68K in 1983 but it was started back in the 1970s, IIRC.


I am against using any C based language for the same reason.

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Now once OS4 is no longer flagged as Beta by it's publisher, we can count the years in development since 2001. Or has the Beta label been removed by the publisher?


The flag is set.

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Hypex 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 14:07:04
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@Hans

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There is no "degree" of porting. Either it took 7 years to port the OS, or it didn't. The truth is that it didn't. Development over the last seven years has been mostly enhancements not porting, so the point is not valid; not even close.


This is quite easy to remember. A number of years ago I wrote, "2004. The year of the OS."

Gee, I thought it would be catchy, but does no one remember when OS4 first went public?

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Gleng 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
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@Cool_amigaN

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We are in the happy position to announced that OS4.x will soon ship for a well known gaming console. Press release will follow shortly.


The Atari 2600?

Edit: It is! (thanks to http://www.labelmaker2600.com/)

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Jupp3 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 14:46:19
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@Gleng

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The Atari 2600?

Looks like it's almost ready: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0N3befikd8

-EDIT-
You can buy the cartridge here

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TheDungeonDelver 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
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It's the Wii. Gotta be. Sony has locked down the PS3 even more, there's no way Microsoft is going to let a "competitor OS" run on the X-Box 360 (not "legally", anyway), the Wii is comparatively a pretty simple console, hardware-wise.

Yeah, that's my guess. It's the Wii.

But here's the $64 question, regardless of the target platform: is this a move to put an OS on a console and bring the console to the desk to use there? Or is this merely giving some desktop-like addons to the console in question?

Hmm...

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Posted on 24-Aug-2009 16:52:08
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@TheDungeonDelver

or the $128 question: Do console owners really want to use their console as a desktop? I mean, they bought it for gaming ...
Hmm, Hmmm ... don't know
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madmalkav 
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@TheDungeonDelver

As I stated before, Sony Other OS support for free operating systems is that, a limited hardware accesss mode for comunity/scene users, and I think that have nothing to do with the posibility of a company getting a license from Sony to make a commercial product, in this case an OS.

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ne_one 
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@Hans

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There is no "degree" of porting. Either it took 7 years to port the OS, or it didn't. The truth is that it didn't. Development over the last seven years has been mostly enhancements not porting, so the point is not valid; not even close.


The original contract was not to extend and enhance the OS, we all know that. Whether it took 7 years or one extra day is irrelevant -- the contract was not satisfied according to the timeline and material requirements.

The ability to deliver on time and according to spec is always the primary consideration. Regardless of who you side with, a third party doing diligence would have a tough time justifying this one even without knowledge of the IP issues.

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ne_one 
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@Swoop

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I don't wish to appear rude and I might be being thick, as I am not a programmer, but what is the fascination with a road map?


Providing one shows vision and direction that in turn helps people decide whether or not they wish to stay the course with a product or a solution provider.

People are asking Hyperion to acknowledge whether OS4 or their other projects have a real future or if they will be encumbered by the ongoing litigation.

At this stage the unresolved legal issues are stonewallinge everything.

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wajdy 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 18:32:56
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@Swoop

You also stated that none of the big players show their roadmap. hmmm!
MS 2008 roadmap

None of us is underestimating efforts by Hyperion, we want to support them by buying their products and a roadmap will certainly help.

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Hondo 
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Posted on 24-Aug-2009 19:21:26
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Some from Hyperion stated that the project would please the old amigans. Now what would please an old amigan???

1. A new superduper Amiga computer (YIHAAAA)

2. memory protection (who cares...I just want a new miggy)

3. multicore support (of course if its in a suuperduper amiga)

4. virtual os4 (boring)

5. open office (boring)

6. Firefox (boring)



Can anyone else suggest something that would very much please an old amigan??

come on guys we are on the right track here

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eder 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 19:29:02
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@Hondo

ppc card for the natami, running 0S3.9 and os4.0

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Fransexy 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 19:31:50
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@Hondo

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Hondo wrote:

Can anyone else suggest something that would very much please an old amigan??

come on guys we are on the right track here


I only can tell what would be pleasant for me and is relatively possible:

Multicore/CPU support and co-processing support via OpenCL for various GPUs, CELL PCI cards, and DSPs

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Jupp3 
Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 19:31:55
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@Hondo

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Can anyone else suggest something that would very much please an old amigan??

How about this:

7. Securing rights to use the "Amiga" name, and continue developing an operating system based on IP owned by Amiga inc. well beyond OS4

That would be something...

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Hondo 
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Posted on 24-Aug-2009 19:34:53
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@Jupp3

Well it cant be hyperions biggest challenge.....after all thats what they've been doing for a long time......hoho

buy yeah its an important thing!

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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious?
Posted on 24-Aug-2009 20:26:40
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@Jupp3

If that was the only thing they announced, it would still be cause enough for me to pop out the bubbly

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