@wajdy

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@Leo While complaining this way is not constructive at all, but... As you mentioned, a roadmap for both: HW and OS is VITAL for a decaying community. @Hyperion: Why do not we have any road map? Waj

Road map!
My new amiga didn't come with a roadmap either. In fact it's more fun that way.
However, she is a whole lot more FUN than that broken board/OS that I paid for
from Acube.

She is fast, powerful, and just plain fun. And there is already all kinds of addons
and doodads I can get for it to make it even more pleasurable for me.

Yes, it was time to replace my old 1982 model with a modern upgrade.
I'm not sure yet just how fast it is , nor how much memory yet, but I'm sure it does
not have memory protection.

Unfortunately, she wasn't cheap. So my next involvement with hyperion will be.....
.....well,,,, WHEN I'M READY! And not before. Besides, the money I had set aside for
a sam flex is now gone and I don't really want any more low spec computers just
because they run AOS.

As soon as I can save up enough I'm also going to get a YDL PowerStation. Which of course
puts another Amiga further down the road.

As far as I'm concerned. Keep your stinkin road map. Life's too short.

Picture to follow.

My new Girlfriend (amiga).

Isn't she a Bonnie lass.


http://www.triumph.co.uk/usa/2009_Bonneville_9918.aspx

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@Hondo

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Hondo wrote: Some from Hyperion stated that the project would please the old amigans. Now what would please an old amigan???

No, we clearly stated that every true amigan will be pleased, not old amigan.

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@wajdy

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You also stated that none of the big players show their roadmap. hmmm! MS 2008 roadmap None of us is underestimating efforts by Hyperion, we want to support them by buying their products and a roadmap will certainly help.

I don't see that link as what I would call a road map. It looks like a list of product lines from 2008.
I don't see windows7 on there, and I don't see a list of improvements/implementations Microsoft is going to make. That's what I, assumed a roadmap was, so what is everybody else's definition of a roadmap? A list of current products, or future projects/enhancements?

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@Jupp3

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7. Securing rights to use the "Amiga" name, and continue developing an operating system based on IP owned by Amiga inc. well beyond OS4 That would be something...

aawh!! come we have ton's of mileage left yet, OS4.2, 4.3, 4.4, 4.5......

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@ne_one

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ne_one wrote: @Hans Quote: There is no "degree" of porting. Either it took 7 years to port the OS, or it didn't. The truth is that it didn't. Development over the last seven years has been mostly enhancements not porting, so the point is not valid; not even close. The original contract was not to extend and enhance the OS, we all know that. Whether it took 7 years or one extra day is irrelevant -- the contract was not satisfied according to the timeline and material requirements.

What the original contract said or not doesn't change the fact that OS4 is a big enhancement over OS3, and therefore is not a "port that took seven years."

Hans

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@Cool_amigaN

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No, we clearly stated that every true amigan will be pleased, not old amigan.

Interesting use of the word "we" there... does that mean you really are part of the OS4 team?

@CodeSmith

LOL.

No mate, but because no one from Hyperion is willing to say anything, I took the chance to make announcements in order to please every amigan regarding the the future of OS4.

But still, regardless the way I am making posts, the post that the fellow amigan is reffering to, was clearly stating "true amigans" exactly as I wrote it.

That leads me to the assumption that the future of this ambitious project doesn't affiliate with the desktop market but is something more versatile.

And let me take the chance to say that: We are happy to announce the immediate release of OS4 in the x86 family of processors. Press release will follow shortly


:P

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@Cool_amigaN

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No mate, but because no one from Hyperion is willing to say anything, I took the chance to make announcements in order to please every amigan regarding the the future of OS4.

So why don't you announce full memory protection, automatic stack increasing, fully OpenGL 3.x compliant 3D drivers and a X86 port then?

AOS4box for MOS

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@Jupp3

Antwerp, Belgium – August 25, 2009

Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to unveil the most ambitious project to its dedicated and loyal customers. After many years of improvements, we announce the immediate availability for download of the new and reworked Amiga OS4.2. In this new Operating System we have added the following critical updates:

- Full memory protection,
- Automatic stack increasing,
- Fully OpenGL 3.x compliant 3D drivers

The targeted platforms are:

- x86 family of processors
- Handlend devices of a well known Scandinavian manufacturer
- PPC gaming consoles
- YDL Powerstations
- 68k family of processors
- ARM based devices

Registered users are invited to re-register their software products in order to obtain access to the download section.

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@Cool_amigaN

You forgot 68K and ARM support in your post

lol

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@HammerD

Damn you are right! Let me fix it for you you.

Please feel free to quote that post and add anything you wish!

lol

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@Cool_amigaN

Ah, ya got me there you wee bugger!

@Cool_amigaN

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Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to unveil the most ambitious project to its dedicated and loyal customers.

You DO know that some users on this page will take your (at least older) "announcements" seriously? You should at least write them in a way, it's obvious it's a joke, something like this:

"Amiga inc. is proud to announce the immediate availability of AmigaOS5.0"

@Jupp3

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Jupp3 wrote: @Cool_amigaN Quote: Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to unveil the most ambitious project to its dedicated and loyal customers. You DO know that some users on this page will take your (at least older) "announcements" seriously? You should at least write them in a way, it's obvious it's a joke, something like this: "Amiga inc. is proud to announce the immediate availability of AmigaOS5.0"

Hey, that's the beauty of it! I am even tempted to register a new nickname as Hyperionnp and start making announcements. rofl

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@Swoop

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I don't see that link as what I would call a road map. It looks like a list of product lines from 2008. I don't see windows7 on there, and I don't see a list of improvements/implementations Microsoft is going to make.

Of course you won't see anything resembling a roadmap in that document or even remotely "technical", because it isn't a document aimed at developers nor to the customers but just a slide extracted from a presentation showed during a financial meeting with investors.
Of course nobody in his sane mind will show tech docs to investors who don't understand or even care about technical aspects, you just need to tell them "we did this and we'll do that".
This so called example of a roadmap from MS brings nothing to the discussion.

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@Mechanic

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broken board/OS

I don't think my Sam is broken - it works without any problems here. Regarding the OS it's a matter of POV: It is still beta status, but I would not consider this as "broken".

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@cha05e90

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Regarding the OS it's a matter of POV: It is still beta status

It was just confirmed that it is no longer beta (even in this same thread)

@Jupp3

Hm, really? I buyed and paid for "OS4.1 Beta for Sam440ep". We had some QuickFixes since then, but nobody told me, that the OS4.1 version for my Sam440ep is *not* beta anymore, but considered as "final". Where is that stated?

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