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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 26-Aug-2009 22:47:57
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Hope the new drivers will come along soon but, I'd still like to see more built in features of graphics cards utilized.
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 26-Aug-2009 23:26:01
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| @Leo
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If you don't enjoy either MorphOS or Amiga OS 4, then why are you here?
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Not ready for you I can understand, but your behaviour here suggests that nothing is good enough for you, development is too slow and in the wrong direction, everything sucks. Where others are happy to see some progress made, you're continually deriding it. That makes it look like your only interest here is to #### on everything.
There are plenty of other people here (myself included) whose Amiga doesn't do everything that they want/need it to, but you don't see them dissing everything.
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 0:12:31
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 1:12:42
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| case in point i play world of warcraft. as a community we were constantly asking for a revamp... |
So in other words you were able to send requests to a company that maintained ownership of its IP and conducts business with millions of users? And the company holds their own conventions to support their user base and to respond to product enhancement requests? And they're publicly traded so they disclose all of their financial information, including risk assessments and go-forward strategies including business plans?
Basically this stuff: http://investor.activision.com/index.cfm
Now imagine tomorrow that Blizzard tells you that if you wish to continue playing WOW you will have to invest in hardware from one provider. And the software itself may not really be legally within their right to sell so you may or may not be violating the EULA policy for that material. And if they don't have the interest or the resources to continue development you can keep the pieces.
Would you be ok with that?
Amiga Inc. and Hyperion aren't Blizzard. Presumably people elect to invest their money in this area knowing that that this assumes some degree risk and other limitations. No one is forcing people to buy OS4 or any hardware.
The 'bitching and moaning' comes from people that want to know if this market is going to become viable from the standpoint of the technology and the business opportunities it represents. Asking for a game plan is what responsible consumers do so they can make informed choices. If you want to play WOW you're tossing out a few dollars. If you want to jump into the Amiga market with new technology you're looking at USD$1000.
Right now there are a lot of unanswered questions that desperately need to be addressed. Failing to tell the world what is going on tells us that there is either far too much uncertainty to make that call or that none of this really matters.
Is the 'secret project' somehow connected to all of this? Certainly. Because if it's not moving things forward in a way that people deem relevant to their interests they're going to spend their money elsewhere.
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 6:08:04
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Not ready for you I can understand, but your behaviour here suggests that nothing is good enough for you, development is too slow and in the wrong direction, everything sucks. Where others are happy to see some progress made, you're continually deriding it. That makes it look like your only interest here is to #### on everything.
There are plenty of other people here (myself included) whose Amiga doesn't do everything that they want/need it to, but you don't see them dissing everything.
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It really amazes me how so many people put so much effort into forums debate.. I admire people like you who are actually furthering the platform in the best way possible for an end user.. developing software. Software is everything really. I dont care what anyone says! (well, there's a few things wrong with that, but I'm not going to do the usual forums thing where you back everything up with lawyer speak so no one can prove you wrong..)
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 6:57:19
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If the secret project should please the true amigans, then i would like to know...
What is a "True Amigan" ?
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 9:17:31
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That looks suspiciously like a can of worms being opened. _________________ If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're upside down. |
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 9:30:32
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 9:39:47
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Try to guess game is nice, but stop blame hyperion for this: let's wait for the secret to be revealed.
Please!!!! Hyperion give us an hint!!! Please!!!! I promise you a dish of Lasagna for each hyperion developer!!!! as well as salciccia and salami with hot pepper!!!!

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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 9:44:07
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Ma dai, andiamo in cucina per Hyperion - Scegliete quel che volete:
# Pane pizza e focacce nella cucina italiana
* Piadina * Pane di Benevento, Pane di altamura, pane toscano, puccia pugliese, focaccia ligure, focaccia pugliese, taralli pugliesi, frise * Pizza * Crescentina * Bruschetta
# La pasta nella cucina italiana
* Spaghetti * Tortellini * Orecchiette * Ravioli * Tagliatelle, trofie * Fusilli * Cavatelli * Strascinati * Farfalle * Maccheroni * Lasagne * Lagane * Manate * Gnocchi * Pizzoccheri * Pastasciutta * Penne
# Il riso nella cucina italiana
* Risotto
# Le uova nella cucina italiana
* Frittata
# La carne nella cucina italiana
* Abbacchio * Brasato al barolo * Bresaola * Bistecca alla fiorentina * Cotoletta alla milanese * Trippa in umido
# Il pesce nella cucina italiana
* Tonno * Cacciucco * Zuppa di pesce * Spada ai ferri
# Formaggi freschi e stagionati
* Parmigiano-Reggiano * Pecorino * Crescenza * Fontina * Gorgonzola * Asiago * Scamorza * Mozzarella * Puzzone
# I dolci nella cucina italiana
* Struffoli * Mustaccioli * Cartellate * Babà * Panettone * Pandoro * Tiramisù * Cassata * Colomba * Pastiera * Bônet * Gelato * Seadas * Meringata
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 9:48:20
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The food weapon could be really really effective. Uhm...
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 10:19:39
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 10:27:13
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If I worked for Hyperion, the secret would be yours by now. That looks good. _________________ If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're upside down. |
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 10:44:15
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 10:56:10
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 11:51:31
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The people who already got Sam + OS4 are saying we are happy and leave as alone & we dont care about amigas tommorow & will be happy using under powered sam with OS4 without newer software or other killer apps.
People who care (like me) who are not the most loved onces here since we dont say sam is fast or super fast and future is sam plus sam better than x86 or other bla bla plus ppc is the only secure hw company for AmigaOS4.
I said this million times & i still will say the same think the PPC is a DEAD discontinued HW & we as small community are getting stuck and going back & back if we dont get newer hw for os4.
hyperian want to keep amiga in there hands by staying with ppc so they can make money by porting some sdl games & OS4 to keep small communitiy in there hands than we wont get no killer apps for years & years coz they are dog slow as company so the game got one winner & its called hypriens monopoly than small community wont GROW and todays happy Sam + OS4 users wont be happy for long by running 68k apps all the times.
dear hyperian you have done great job with OS4 & it does look good just give give community more option than just Sam & thats please please as i also limed with space as already got 2xlaptops (work) 1xdesktop (winuae) intel based its faster than both of my real amigas... 1xA1200TW (OS3) 1xA4000(OS3) 1x sam i`m sorry i dont have any more space in my house to store any more hw
some missspells but do i care NO
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 12:16:07
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*yawn*
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 12:20:36
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Double yawn
@rigo
could you please reply to me?
Thank you.
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 13:09:17
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Re: Is the Hyperion secret project really so ambitious? Posted on 27-Aug-2009 13:22:53
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you missed my point entirely. i was not commenting on buisness practices. also some of this is trying to redirect to something i didn't even insinuate. my point put as simply as i can is even though there is no roadmap released does not mean that one does not exist. furthermore if you was an investor of hyperion you could see said roadmap and would agree it would be important in that regard. however work continues unabated even if we do not know what is being done.
hence my example (there was no roadmap saying that blizzard listened to us) we didn't find out about big changes to our game till the announcement. and at that time we found out that these changes started one year prior. also the officials were telling us all that time that they had no plans to do this either.
now people bitch about how hyperion should do this or that but you won't know what they are doing until they do it. i am confident that with rogue, entilzha, etc still here and posting occasionally that they see what we want and is working on the os the best they can.
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