@All

Unfortunately, i don't have Alfreds' email, but then again it should not be too hard to find if searching the site properly..

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@AndreasM

I was thinking more of a new version. That is important now..

I don't expect miracles to happen. You sound like if i believe in magic.
Can tell you that i don't believe in magic. I believe in what i can see with
my very eyes, but one has to start somewhere..

I know very well that Alfred is ill. At least he can point somebody into the right direction to make a new Amiga version..

And i don't think many people care about what Ray from RBF thinks. He doesn't have much to say anymore, and he has to accepts that things have changed a lot since the glorious days when MED was new to the scene..

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AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
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@Robert

It's not a new thing. It's a truth that has been underestimated in such a tracker..

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@HKvalhe

Quote:

HKvalhe wrote: @Robert It's not a new thing. It's a truth that has been underestimated in such a tracker..

Well, OctaMED was my prime reason for using Amigas. When development dried up, I hung on for years, bought a Peg1 and an A1, but eventually switched to Logic on the Mac about 3 years ago.

I still own my Amigas. If there is a tracker with MIDI support for OS4 or MOS, I'd probably give it a try.

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@Robert

Some of the others might have such a support. I'm not sure. I only know about the OctaMED, as i have used that very much in the past...

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AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
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@HKvalhe
For me MED SoundStudio was and is one of the Amigas Killer applications along with DPaint, Photogenics, ImageFX, PageStream, Lightwave and these are the applications that X Amiga users remember. When ever I tell an x Amiga owning friend that I have a modern Amiga along with my Wndows PC they are the first Applications they ask if you can still run.

As a hobby second computer the price and speed is not as important to them as being able to run the old applications they remember faster than any old amiga, as they have no interest in replacing their PC's or MACs, but remember the fun they had back in the day with their Amigas/

As such I too would love to see MED SoundStudio rescued and a new release with better support for new AmigaOS's released.

I would be very happy with a fixed up 68K release that is no longer reliant on the Amigas custom chips to run and work work with AOS4, MorphOS and even old 68K Amigas as well.

I don't think it would be realistic to aim for more with a first release and I think there would be a real if small market for it at a reasonable price. Then if sales were OK the developer could then think about making further enhancements and work slowly to a PPC native version over a number of releases.

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@Dwyloc

I hope so, too. I know your feeling. Only time will tell..

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AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
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@Dwyloc:

Umfortunately Ray has all but given up on the amiga version after several false starts and can't release the source as much of it is apparently used in the (still commercial) Windows version.

Unless a skilled programmer (or group of them) comes forward and reaches agreement with Ray development is dead.

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@Robert

Ray lacks the right vision and spirit. He never had a true Amiga spirit. One that gives up too easy, never has a true soul and will. It's a fact..

It would be best for him to give other people the opportunity to bring Amiga a brand new version of the most famous tracker..

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@HKvalhe

Quote:

Ray lacks the right vision and spirit. He never had a true Amiga spirit. One that gives up too easy, never has a true soul and will. It's a fact.. It would be best for him to give other people the opportunity to bring Amiga a brand new version of the most famous tracker..

Words are cheap. Have you ever developed anything?

I thought not.

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@HKvalhe

> I don't expect miracles to happen. You sound like if i believe in magic.
> Can tell you that i don't believe in magic. I believe in what i can see with
> my very eyes, but one has to start somewhere..

and i know the background details :)

Open Source: No chance
New Developer Team: Where?
(And at first must Ray cancel the contract with us)

> I know very well that Alfred is ill. At least he can point somebody into the right direction to make a new Amiga version..

he can do nothing. Ray have the rights.

> And i don't think many people care about what Ray from RBF thinks. He doesn't have much to say anymore, and he has to accepts that things have changed a lot since the glorious days when MED was new to the scene..

he have "only" the rights of the name, Source and all other :)

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@HKvalhe

Quote:

HKvalhe wrote: @Robert Ray lacks the right vision and spirit. He never had a true Amiga spirit. One that gives up too easy, never has a true soul and will. It's a fact..

What a ridiculous comment. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

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@Robert
Yeah, Ray's not in this for charity. If he can't at least break even on the software what's the point for him. The Amiga he signed on for doesn't exist, the audience that was there is no longer and won't return. Does he really need to work for a handful of retro-heads?

Respect him and be grateful for what he did in the past.

@HKvalhe

Quote:

HKvalhe wrote: @Robert Ray lacks the right vision and spirit. He never had a true Amiga spirit. One that gives up too easy, never has a true soul and will. It's a fact..

This is not a religion. I'm not going to allow you to be saying people lack a soul over a bloody computer program. There was an AR on this post. I'm approving it. You now have FIFTEEEN of those. Your posting privileges here are going to be in jeopardy forever really soon if you keep up such behavior. Now I suggest you apologize and chill out on these kind of things.

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@Robert

Quote:

Robert wrote: @Trixie Quote: Trixie wrote: @Kicko [quote]It had midi to control HW synthesizers if i remember right Yes, a very simple implementation though. This was the difference for me. Is there any tracker for OS4 that has MIDI?

This was the difference for most! I don't know of ANY other tracker with MIDI support on AMIGA and I know of people still using MED/SS for just this reason.
Others I know still use ATARI

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@Robert

And you claim to know better? If so, then show up the edvidences before making conclusions like that...

You have a lot to learn, my young apprentice..

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AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
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@Zardoz

So you believe that if people don't develop, then they know nothing? How arrogant!

Even if a great couple of Amiga users don't develop, they still know a lot and they still do a lot of other important stuffs that should never be underestimated..

I have never developed programs, but i have done a lot for the Amiga community since back in the end of the 80-ies when i noticed the Amigas' potensial...

Many of you claim to be dedicated Amiga users, but too many of you sound very much like a typical Windows-lover defending other systems and tripping on the Amiga, underestimating its' potensial and saying that Amiga is plain dead an all that crap..

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AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
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@All

Ok, i want to know how is the person that reported me for site abuse and on what term, which is not mentioned...

I am sick and tired of ####s from this site claiming to know everything and everybody else being so damn stupid, just because a great numbers of us don't develop, but do other computing stuffs..

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AmigaOS 4.1 with latest updates, or a new powerful
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@All

I respect the great work Ray did on MED/OctaMED in the past, but i feel that he simply just gave up too easily on the Amiga, and he SHOULD have brought SoundStudio Open Source...

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@fairlanefastback

I'm surprised you thought i think of this as a religion. It's not. It's about the Amiga, for Gods' heaven sake...

What's the matter with the like of you?

You know, i don't actually care about these 15 ARs or what they are called, because i believe in what i am talking about. I love the Amiga, probably much more than any of you. I am a true Amiga supporter and fan of it. I would give my life to bring Amiga into the future where it belongs, but i don't have to because i am sure Hyperion will do the job.

This site sucks worse than a toothless grandma sucking an old sausage pretending it to be a ####..

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