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Zardoz 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 3:19:46
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@HKvalhe

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So you believe that if people don't develop, then they know nothing? How arrogant!


No, YOU are the one claiming that someone who is not spending his time and money on something YOU want, practically for free, has no soul. You are unbelievably arrogant.

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 3:24:49
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@Zardoz

Perhaps one could say the same thing about you? It works both way, you know...

I don't like to be aquised without edvidences, so know your place..

I tried to say that the person has no soul simply because he gave up, instead
of bringing the program to Open Source or a better solution...

Perhaps i should say that most of the members of this site have no soul because they always tend to be too negative, and for what reason?

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 3:35:48
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Hello All.

Even if nothing becomes of the OS4 version of MED SoundStudio at least we can still use the 68k Amiga version to play and write tracker music on OS4.

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 5:02:11
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@HKvalhe

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I'm surprised you thought i think of this as a religion. It's not. It's about the Amiga, for Gods' heaven sake...


I'm not saying you necessarily think of it as one. But you seem to treat it like one, persecuting a "non-believer" as someone without a soul. Thats just utterly rude on your part.

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I would give my life to bring Amiga into the future where it belongs,


You just proved my point in that statement.


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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 5:11:37
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@HKvalhe

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HKvalhe wrote:
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Ok, i want to know how is the person that reported me for site abuse and on what term, which is not mentioned...

I am sick and tired of ####s from this site claiming to know everything and everybody else being so damn stupid, just because a great numbers of us don't develop, but do other computing stuffs..



Saying a person lacks a human soul because they are not developing a product as you want them to, and telling other members to "know their place" is rude, its flamebait, and its trolling. This has nothing to do with developers vs. users.

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AndreasM 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 9:10:50
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@HKvalhe

> I tried to say that the person has no soul simply because he gave up, instead
of bringing the program to Open Source or a better solution...

I hope Ray never visit AW and read your text.

make the chance very very bigger that a new version of MED release.

THANKS HKvalhe for your great help :/

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HKvalhe 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 12:41:25
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@fairlanefastback

Ok, i am happy that you don't think of this as a religion, because i can tell that i don't. It might sound like it, but reading between the lines will show that it's not...

No offense to Ray, but i seriously don't feel that people giving up easily on the Amiga are so very faithful to the platform. It could be very much like being married or dated to a person, then stabbing the partner's back by dumping the partner to stand all alone.

Is it wrong to give my own life to save the Amiga from disappearing? I don't think so. If one truly is faithful to something, then it is with the whole life and soul. That is extremely important to understand..

It is also pretty much insulting to get the feeling that if somebody is not developing something for the Amiga in form of programming, then they are not wanted to this
site. I think that is pretty ridicilous and foolish. There are many ways to develop
something for the Amiga and even support it. You don't have to be a programmer
to develop...

To the other post, i now know that you were the one responsible for the AR. It's sad to see that i have caused such a great misunderstanding because people like you
don't understand who i am, what i do, what i feel and what i represent..

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HKvalhe 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 12:44:06
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@AndreasM

I am sorry of course, but perhaps all of you in this site should feel a little guilty yourself, too. I wasn't the only one to fail here.

It's very sad to see how far into the darkness this site has fallen..

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AP 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 13:06:27
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@HKvalhe

>Is it wrong to give my own life to save the Amiga from disappearing?

It is at least very strange. And it makes a joke about people who gave their life for really important things like freedom or a better world in general.

Amiga was a great Computer-system in the 80thies and it is still a hobby-system which can bring you a lot of fun. But it´s not more than that and for sure nothing to give your life.

BTW: Amiga is not the only great computer, who was far ahead of its time but failed in the end. But that doesn´t mean the end. As long as their at leas a few people who are interested in a Computer-system, it will live on, even when their is no commercial market for it. I know what I am talking about, because I am a Sinlair QL-user/fan, too.

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HKvalhe 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 13:14:44
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@AP

I'm sorry to see that so many of you members don't care so much for the Amiga anymore. If that is so, then i don't understand the necessarity of this site..

But again, i understand your point..

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 13:25:50
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@HKvalhe

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HKvalhe wrote:
To the other post, i now know that you were the one responsible for the AR. It's sad to see that i have caused such a great misunderstanding because people like you
don't understand who i am, what i do, what i feel and what i represent..


And that means you think the TOS of this site don't apply to you?

Look around, people on here have disagreements and misunderstandings every day. The difference is that most of them do it in a civilised manner without resorting to name calling and insults.

To be blunt, I find it extremely hypocritical of you to come here, pronouncing yourself 'the great saviour of the Amiga', blasting others for not sharing your view, and then see you've starting another thread complaining about the behaviour of people on here.
Pot, Kettle, Black.

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Kronos 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 13:29:21
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@HKvalhe

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don't understand who i am, what i do, what i feel and what i represent..


I think it's quite clear what you represent :

Everything that is wrong in the Amiga-community.

And let me spell it out for :

If you don't want to be treated like a complete idiot, try not to act like one !!

Last edited by Kronos on 05-Dec-2009 at 01:29 PM.

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HKvalhe 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 13:32:08
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@Kronos

I think that message goes for all of us, don't you think? Perhaps a lesson to learn oneself?

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HKvalhe 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 13:33:33
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@Doobrey

I could probably say the same thing about you...

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Zardoz 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 14:22:52
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@HKvalhe

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Perhaps one could say the same thing about you? It works both way, you know...


Really? Where do you see me calling people names for not making the software I want for no gain whatsoever? If I seriously wanted an app so badly I'd move my #### to make it myself.

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I don't like to be aquised without edvidences, so know your place..


The evidence is the post I replied to. You may want to pass any words you are about to type through the grey matter in your head before directing your fingers to press the keys.

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 15:04:28
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@HKvalhe

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HKvalhe wrote:
@Doobrey

I could probably say the same thing about you...


Wow, what a well reasoned thought out reply.
Seriously dude, grow the hell up and stop acting like a little child who can't get his own way.

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fairlanefastback 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 16:11:22
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@HKvalhe

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No offense to Ray, but i seriously don't feel that people giving up easily on the Amiga are so very faithful to the platform. It could be very much like being married or dated to a person, then stabbing the partner's back by dumping the partner to stand all alone.


Who are you to say he gave up "easily"? Do you know anything about his day to day life? His family situation? His job situation? His health status? Maybe he works 16 hour days and has a sick relative to care for. "Easily" is very relative. Whats easy in one person's life is not easy in another's.

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Is it wrong to give my own life to save the Amiga from disappearing? I don't think so.


Lets put aside discussing if its right or wrong. If you told that seriously to a mental health professional they would tell you you need treatment IMO. Giving up your entire existence is usually reserved for things like saving a loved one from harm, saving innocents from harm, defending human rights principles. No computer system is in that same level of importance.

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To the other post, i now know that you were the one responsible for the AR.


No another user reported you. As I already said, I approved the abuse report.

Last edited by fairlanefastback on 05-Dec-2009 at 04:12 PM.

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AndreasM 
Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 17:24:16
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@HKvalhe

> No offense to Ray, but i seriously don't feel that people giving up easily on the Amiga are so very faithful to the platform.

Is this a joke?

have you any backgroud info?

example know you that Ray are very ill?

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 20:11:01
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@HKvalhe

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If that is so, then i don't understand the necessarity of this site..


It's a hobby. Like knitting. If you're looking for religion, might I suggest:

http://www.scientology.org/
http://www.walmart.com/
http://www.peta.org/

EDIT: These are, of course, American references, but I believe the gist of the joke will survive the transatlantic journey. I don't know enough of Norwegian culture to provide localized satire.

Last edited by Trev on 05-Dec-2009 at 08:14 PM.

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Re: MED SoundStudio for Amiga must be saved!
Posted on 5-Dec-2009 20:29:40
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@HKvalhe

Quote:

HKvalhe wrote:
You know, i don't actually care about these 15 ARs or what they are called, because i believe in what i am talking about. I love the Amiga, probably much more than any of you. I am a true Amiga supporter and fan of it. I would give my life to bring Amiga into the future where it belongs, but i don't have to because i am sure Hyperion will do the job.

This site sucks worse than a toothless grandma sucking an old sausage pretending it to be a ####..


You know you really should think carefully before typing things like that. For a start, you accused the current owner of the sourcecode of sitting back and doing nothing, and lacking enthusiasm, drive and a multitude of other things to get a new version released.

If you paid careful attention to the MED forums (and this is going back to 2002 when I posted news articles about OMSS V2 starting development), you will know that RBF put a lot of effort into trying to get a modern updated version of OMSS coded and released.

Now for whatever reasons, the project has hit stumbling blocks and has been delayed indefinitely. That however doesn't give any of us the right to demand the source be released nor to accuse the copyright owner of half of the things you did.

Then accusing this site of your rather colourful image really highlights the lack of thought you put into that post. People have been constantly telling you that you cannot just accuse any person of the things you did without knowing the first thing of that individuals situation. And rather than acknowledge you made a mistake and apologising for it, you have gone off on an assault of everyone that disagreed with you.

I posted rather recently that exactly this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated on this site. You may not care for your ARs so far, but it is an indication that you have ignored the TOS for the site or posted in a fashion that has caused offence, or was deemed to have been uncalled for 15 times.

Consider this a warning about your behaviour on this site. Any more of this will see you facing a posting restriction or worse.

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