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AmigaHeretic 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 1:22:01
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@gregthecanuck

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gregthecanuck wrote:
If you look closely at the corner of the CPU exposed on the motherboard picture, you can see there is a little bit of dirty white/grey-ish colour.

This looks like it could be the top of a PA-Semi chip. It is close to the right colour:

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1009119/pa-semi-releases-chip

UPDATE: Here is a closer look at the chip itself: wired.com

That package looks close to the corner you see on the m/b picture, including the little pcb around the edge of the chip.



That's the same board I was trying to link to earlier. I believe it was the dev board for the PA6T it code name is Electra.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
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I still want to know about that audio output. Colour coding suggests 7.1 audio


If my guess about SB600 is correct, it supports HD audio. I don't know but I assume that 7.1 is possible in the HD Audio spec.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
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It was tomazkid, and he really should know better...


Bad quote?


I am usually the one fixing those

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 2:02:26
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@billt

The SB600 has:

AC Link interface

* Supports for both audio and modem Codecs
* Compliant with AC-97 codec Rev. 2.3
* 6/8 channel support on audio codec
* Multiple functions for audio and modem Codec operations
* Bus master logic
* Supports up to 3 codecs simultaneously
* Supports SDIF output
* Separate bus from the HD audio

HD Audio

* 4 independent output streams (DMA)
* 4 independent input streams (DMA)
* Up to 16 channels of audio output per stream
* Supports up to 4 codecs
* Up to 192kHz sample rate
* Up to 32-bit per sample
* Message Signaled Interrupt (MSI) capability
* 64-bit addressing capability for MSI
* 64-bit addressing capability for DMA bus master
* Unified Audio Architecture (UAA) compatible
* HD Audio registers can be located anywhere in the 64-bit address space


So, you can get 7.1 without using the HD Audio.

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mingle 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 2:11:34
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Hmm... Potentially interesting hardware, but lets hope it's not going to be crippled by the biggest issue that's faced all Amiga h/w since the demise of CBM...

No decent software!

If it can't run equivalent (or better) apps like Firefox, OpenOffice and the Gimp, I can't really see the point in it...

I guess it could be attractive to the serious 'hobbyist' (ie: hardware geek!), but I like my boxes to be able to do productive and useful things...

Just my $0.02

Mike.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 2:17:39
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The January 4 2010 hint is up. Look at the title bar on the part with the puzzle piece. It says (look closer).

-edit-
The comma is missing.

-edit2-
Was the 42010 a chip number?

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
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@Samurai_Crow

If you press Ctrl-A in Firefox (to select all) a hidden text appears: "Did you spot the xorro slot?"

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ISO/IEC 42010:2007
Systems and software engineering -- Recommended practice for architectural description of software-intensive systems

(the result of Googling 42010.)

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 2:32:29
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@Samurai_Crow

Yeah, I googled that too but I don't think it's related. To answer your question about commas, the other puzzle#?.png images don't have commas either:






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DiscreetFX 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 3:02:37
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It's strange that a story with this many views has not hit Digg yet.

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ne_one 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
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Yikes... away for a few days and missed all the fun!

Has anyone compiled a list of clues and guesses?

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
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@ne_one

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Has anyone compiled a list of clues and guesses?


Oh yes, just read through these 1300 posts

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tiffers 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:06:17
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@ne_one


See Geennaam's post #143

There has also been speculation about 64-bit / greater than 4GB Memory support.

While I would say that any cpu worth putting on such a board would be 64-bit and would thus support large memory, it may be a stretch to assume this would apply to AmigaOS in the immediate future. Linux running on the same board might well work in 64-bit, but AmigaOS may well need some time to stretch its legs to those heights.

Of course it's necessary to have the hardware in order to devlop for it, so it makes sense to make a board with such capabilities.

tiffers

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:06:50
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Oh yes, just read through these 1300 posts


Funny.

Huh, I read all the posts but it was worth it.
I have to say that I can't remember the time I had this much fun in the Amiga world.
This is a very positive thing that is happening in our small world, and I have a feeling that it will become much bigger.

Well one can hope.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:14:47
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About the price of this board.

I think that we have to be very realistic about this point.
We can't expect some ridiculously low price, that is common in the x86 world simply because the market isn't that big yet.

But whatever the price is, that should not undermine the effort here.
We have to understand that we have been given a chance for a new beginning and first few steps will not be ideal.
But the chance is here, and I'm looking forward to see what the future holds.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:20:10
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@Teddy

I do wonder if there is a bigger main market for this board, with the Amiga being a side market. Could effect the price if that was the case.

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Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:22:29
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@sundown

I hope so..

BTW, I think the southbridge is the ATI SB600...the chip looks pretty much the same as what's shown on the tease.jpg photo!! :)


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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2
Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:27:34
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@tomazkid
Wild speculation, how did Hyperion get a chip from PA.Semi

I know it's not the same design ACK was to do but.... Could Amiga Inc actually have had a contract with P.A.Semi that was useful to Hyperion and part of the recent negotiations?

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Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:36:39
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@Teddy

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About the price of this board...


I understand economies of scale, but it'd be nice to NOT have to sell a kidney to purchase a board / system.

I think I will be getting one of these, but it will take quite some time to get the money together.

I know you haven't said it, but Amiga=expensive is a wrong attitude, which seems to be stuck in some people's minds.

I remember my cousin excitedly showing us the A1000 launch video, and discussing prices. He said for around AU $4000 it could do what a PC cosing $10000 could do. Mind blowing! It was like that for some time too. Then when PCs started doing the same or better things or less $$ I saw the writing on the wall.

I remember saying that C= didn't know how to market the Amiga properly back in 1992. They just weren't advertising the Amiga in Australia back then. I also thought how they kep tthe price of the A1200 and A4000 the same, year after year was another mistake. I guess there were lots of mistakes made.

But using the cost of Amigas in the later years as a benchmark for saying if it's Amiga is has to be expensive is just wrong.

tiffers

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Posted on 4-Jan-2010 5:39:17
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@Troels

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Could Amiga Inc actually have had a contract with P.A.Semi that was useful to Hyperion and part of the recent negotiations?


After this much delay, not likely. I haven't heard from my PA Semi contact since the Apple borged them. Amiga Inc. can't be very special at this point either. Today, either you're a military contractorwith the US Dept. of Defense putting pressure on Apple, or your Amiga Inc. which is pretty much the same thing as me in my bedroom design center.

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