@Rogue

Ok, It's a dual core; then I think It's this one:

http://www.theinquirer.net/img/5892/PA6T-1682M-Block-Diagram.jpg

right ? :)

@DAX

The story of Nemo is loosely based on the Greek story of Homers Odyssey...

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@AndrewKorn

You make nice riddles :)

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@ ALL

Here I want to give you another hint solved as gift for the community:

Do you remember this little tease image from the motherboard?



We got crazy believing it was something sayng "PowerPC", or AmigaOne "Powered", or else "Powered by... something..."

Now look close to the image of the motherboard cleansed and enhanced...



Did you noticed it?



Yes... It is just a "X"!

So the full Motherboard name is this:

"A-EON TECHNOLOGY
AmigaOne Power X
Rev. 1.0"

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@DAX

I think the greek mythology is tied to the xena thingy,and not the cpu. I got my 2 cent on the pasemi regarding the CPU. I got no clue at all concerning the xena,but i doubt it is the xcore.

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There was some very vital info posted in this thread some pages ago which seems to have been mostly overlooked.

Maybe time to reread....

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@Raffaele
We noticed that a 1000 posts back :D

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@all

So it's the fastest AOS4 CPU so far.
By a large margin?
"Amiga back to high end"
Then the CPU should be around or above G5 performance?

And X gives something extra. It's configurable. Like FPGA.. But it's not (just) a FPGA.




+
about the beyond beyond computing...
there are beyond computing -named companies etc. but what is beyond Beyond Computing?

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Guys.
(EDIT: WRONG!!!) I hope you can contain your disappointment about it not being a giant killer.(EDIT: WRONG!!!)
It will be a nice mobo, no doubt, and the fastest Amiga to date, but it won't be any faster than the best PPC hardware from Apple from a few years ago let alone today's machines. It has PCIe though, finally, and is expandable to 4 Gig RAM.

(EDIT: WRONG!!!) The processor will end up being a PPC460GT, PPC460GTx or PPC460SX single core from Applied Micro running at 1.4 GHz. Not a slouch, but not a giant killer either. (EDIT: SUPER WRONG!!!) I have doubts that Hyperion already could have completed SMP since the lawsuit,(EDIT: SUPER WRONG!!!) assuming they started then, anyway. It's not like they haven't got enough to do. (EDIT: WRONG!!!)

The Xena chip, or X part, will be an XMOS XCore chip, which is an FPGA of sorts running at 400Mghz, with 4 RISC like cores (XS1-G4), unless they went with something cheaper that has 2 cores(XS1-G2). It could emulate custom chips or do some sort stream processing like encoding and decoding. It might be a good device for embedded hardware developers too. And it might just come into the price range for Set Top Box manufacturers too (let's hope).

(EDIT: SUPER SUPER WRONG!!! It's definitely multi-core. I missed the part where Rogue confirmed this!!!
NEVER BEEN SO GLAD TO BE WRONG!!!!! DEFINITELY EXCITED NOW!!!!)

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@Geennaam

I think it's this one
http://www.theinquirer.net/img/5892/PA6T-1682M-Block-Diagram.jpg
I don't see other way ... what do you think about ?

@Rougue
a little help to confirm this ? :)

@divina

The PA 1682 has been suggested several times already. It still seems like the best guess IMHO, the only contraindication is that it is usually said to be rather difficult to get hold of these chips unless you are not from the mil sector since Apple took over PA Semi. But who knows, I would like a PA 1682 though.

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I'm going to take a guess: the guy who came up with the riddles is Andrew Korn (iirc ex cu amiga amongst others). Posted in this thread and matches the "professional journalist and well known in the amiga community description".

Where do i collect my prize? :)

(pity nobody is interested in that part of the riddle though :))

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@BigBentheAussie
On today update, they say it will bring Amiga to the forefront again but that doesn't mean it has to do it solely with a Powerful CPU.

Apple was always a no show as far as HW innovations (since the beginning), all they were able to do was to buy some off the shelf parts and built PCs that happened to have motorola/ PPC instead of x86 (than they went x86 all the way).

I believe this Amiga will be more Powerful that whatever Apple has made, but not because of the CPU being more powerful than a Dual G5.

Like in the golden days we will be able to do incredible stuff on a weird custom machine ^__^

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Anyone solved:

"Alive without breath,
As cold as death.
Never thirsty, ever drinking,
All in mail, never clinking."

yet? Might have missed it...



Jason

@divina

It's not PA Semi. I have no insider information or anything, but I do have a lot of plain ol' common sense. PA Semi was bought up by Apple LONG ago. Since Apple sues websites and bloggers for revealing (pointless) information, and wants to have jailbreaking declared illegal, it simply does not make any sense at all, whatsoever, in any way, that this machine uses a PA Semi chip.

Not only would it be a complete 180 for Apple, and not in line with any of their actions of the past decade, it would also be monumentally stupid on Hyperion's side to rely on Apple.

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@BigBentheAussie

Quote:

The Xena chip, or X part, will be an XMOS XCore chip, which is an FPGA of sorts running at 400Mghz, with 4 RISC like cores (XS1-G4), unless they went with something cheaper that has 2 cores(XS1-G2). It could emulate custom chips or do some sort stream processing like encoding and decoding. It might be a good device for embedded hardware developers too. And it might just come into the price range for Set Top Box manufacturers too (let's hope).

The XCore is not an FPGA or FPGA-like device, an FPGA is effectively a logic veroboard, the XCore is an actual multithreaded event-driven microcontroller.

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@Zylesea

That's why it was thought it's gone/dead?

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@rigo
Can you link us to what you mean (with over 1500 posts in two threads it is difficult to understand what we should go back to...)?

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@pertinaxone

Quote:

pertinaxone wrote: Anyone solved: "Alive without breath, As cold as death. Never thirsty, ever drinking, All in mail, never clinking." yet? Might have missed it... Jason

It's obviously a Fish... but I can't figure out a Fish in this context...

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Check my Amiga gameplays (ITA)!

I remember some stories about contract work between avionics (military?) industry and Hyperion.

So there might be a path to get hold of PA 1682 chips... Long story you know.

Well this is only speculation...

Here's old link:

The old link shortened



fixed link /tomazkid

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