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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:28:24
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| Dr. Tim King (the one behind AmigaDOS) was into Transputers as well. Are they all coming back? 
Well, Phoenicians were a seafaring people. What did they see? The sea, stars (goddess Astarte), Cyprus (meaning copper)? Maybe it is about a copper PowerPC?
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:29:00
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They say: "Yes, it is the most powerful AmigaOS hardware ever. By a big margin."
So I bet it's a lot faster than (lets say) 1.3Ghz G4. (friedens had also the dual G4 cpu card, but it does not count)
But iw will be expensive. I'm sure 1000¤ RedOnes with SAM can continue on their low/mid end while Nemo will cost more than 2000¤. For me it most likely take year(s) before I would afford to get the Nemo one. Last edited by KimmoK on 05-Jan-2010 at 09:36 AM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:29:17
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| Hey, gooooood morning all!
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:31:07
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| @Geennaam
!Only the P40x0 has an 18 lanes serdes but the documentation reads clearly that PCIe x8 is the max. Also it's a quad and octacore where Rogue already confirmed it's a dual core. The P2020 has not have enough serdes lanes at all. (6 max iirc).
The only CPU known today to fully meet the so far known specifications is the PA6T-1682M (PWRficient). It seems unlikely becuase PA SEMI is no more, but, the mainboard CPU/XENA "guess" page already told us about the CPU "It's quite a story, actually".!
I agree. "It's quite a story, actually" makes PA6T a possibility. (and IIRC Transputer guys @ UK have competence on designing industrial boards around it. _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer? |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:32:06
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So. SAM FPGA I/O can support XCore then.
@all
Would it be too nasty if they reveal the last (?) part one hour too early?
(I better go for to pee already & then warm up my F5 handling finger) Last edited by KimmoK on 05-Jan-2010 at 09:34 AM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:32:44
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:34:42
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Thom_Holwerda wrote: Another day, another overcrowded AW.net.
I have my text editor open for the OSNews story as soon as the news hits :). |
This should cause quite a kerfuffle once the news hits. Should be interesting to see how many trolls come out of the woodwork.
I have my 10 points standing by...
UPDATE: Rogue and EntilZha are active on this site. Stand-by folks!Last edited by gregthecanuck on 05-Jan-2010 at 09:40 AM. Last edited by gregthecanuck on 05-Jan-2010 at 09:36 AM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:37:15
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| Just wanted to say this is the first thread on any amiga website where I have sat and read every single post in quite a few years. Roll on the future baby!  _________________ Regards Darren 'Ryu' Glenn ---------------------------- www.IntuitionBase.com - Your Guide to Amiga OS4.x and the AmigaOne www.Bambi-Amiga.co.uk - My A1200 webserver, running 24/7/365 |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:37:22
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| @Flystone
Updates are still coming for the AmigaOne which dates back to 2004 so I think it's safe to assume updates will keep coming for your 2008/2009 SAM too...
Even with the new A1-PX coming I still plan on buying a SAM, because I don't have one, (edit) it's the only board which is suitable to build a laptop (/edit) and it will take a while before the new board is available, the OS ready for it, and everything else needed for normal daily use.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:42:21
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| @Flystone
even though new hardware and functionality arrives, old hardware can be supported. Since AmigaOS is built modulary, individual parts will still work.
Of course some programs will need new hardware, but thats normal evolution. If you for example want something to work at a specific speed, well you need to get hardware that can cope with that speed. Or if you need HDMI output, well, you need to get hardware that supports HDMI, or... an extension to the old hardware |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:43:21
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"Yes, it is the most powerful AmigaOS hardware ever. By a big margin." |
Yes, but Amiga harware was stuck with AmigaOne and Pegasos II as top performing computers. On the other hand you can grab G4 1.5Ghz Mac. What about G5? It's a computer from 2003. Apple stopped producing it in 2006, you could get 2.7Ghz G5 Mac by then.
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But iw will be expensive. |
It will be.
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For me it most likely take year(s) before I would afford to get the Nemo one. |
I was counting on something mainstream with AmigaOS, this is sticking to hobby, and this board fails to impress me, unless there's still something that would make me go "Whaaaaaat?" (in a good way)_________________ OpenWindows Initiative. Port PS3 hardware to bananas. For free. Join today and receive expired $50 cupon from AI! |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:49:25
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Has already been found out what has been uploaded to Wikimedia, an action spotted when the first signs of a-eon arose? |
I don't want to disappoint you, but since I made those screenshots: Nothing was uploaded. It was just showing en.wikipedia.org on the other tab, and I had a slow network; it wasn't done loading at the time I made the screenshot. If you go to Wikipedia, chances are you will see the upload.wikimedia.org pop up in your status bar at one point, too._________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:52:54
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I was counting on something mainstream with AmigaOS, | I am hoping for innovation, there is already to much mainstream out there.
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this is sticking to hobby, | Hobby? This new concept could be used for far much mor than a hobby computer, just like the original Amiga.
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unless there's still something that would make me go "Whaaaaaat?" (in a good way) | Let's hope for this |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:55:06
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| How many people want a new "hobby" Amiga, and how many want a new professional Amiga.
My vote is for a professional Amiga hopefully back in the video and graphics business and I will pay for it and hopefully sell them if they are quality. However, this sort of kit is going to be professional kit price, but at least it should be in the budget end of the professional price to make people look.
But if successful it will generate budget machines.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 9:55:24
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| @opi No wonder that individuals that abandoned official AmigaOS (and talked it down) for years now play "posh" from the hights of their superior position. Sometimes I wonder why they visit Amiga sites anyway...(the latter is an interesting question).
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 10:00:58
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Hobby as "who is going to buy this board".
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People said same things when it came to public information that, then new to us, Samantha board will have FPGA. Did someone used it for something, anything? Maybe Hyperion has some awesome demo that will display ability of this new silicon that lives on MAP board. Maybe it's OS4 that would be able to utilize it from kernel up to user land?
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 10:02:45
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Firstly - let's wait and see what it is - you never know.
The Amiga - even with all of this - is unlikely to be a strong competitor in the mainstream unless a lot of things go right for it. We know this. Right now - A-Eon/Hyperion know this too. But - for now - let's enjoy the introduction of someone trying something slightly different and all of the new interest in the Amiga. If this doesn't work out this really will be the last chapter in the Amiga history - of that I feel sure - but maybe - just maybe - something good will come from this.
You must admit that the last few days have been kinda fun.
We will stay sensible and practical - we always do - but let us take this new step with some positivity and just that - a first step - not a PC/Mac killer overnight. Let's work with it and not against it as it has a chance of giving us what we want in the end.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 10:02:56
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Thanks for clearing that one. And no, I'm not disapointed. Just eager to know what will be presented exactly. Well, have to be patient a little more then. _________________ Back home... |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 10:04:12
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 10:04:38
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No wonder that individuals that abandoned official AmigaOS (and talked it down) for years now play "posh" from the hights of their superior position. |
Are you talking to me?
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(if I was addressed in your post)Because (to my amazement) I still like everything Amiga, there are few interesting people here, we had some interesting talks and funny flamewars. _________________ OpenWindows Initiative. Port PS3 hardware to bananas. For free. Join today and receive expired $50 cupon from AI! |
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