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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:02:44
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:03:01
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The XCore chips are not really suitable to run an OS directly - they're designed to be "configurable silicon", i.e. a cheaper, more efficient alternative to FPGA or custom ASICs. You're far more likely to be able to virtualize the main CPU.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:07:06
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| @vidarh Where do they say 1 core? They show the picture for all three models with the quad on the forefront!
@Asymetrix Indeed the next news they should release is how far the next AmigaOS is and what features of the AmigaOne X1000 is it ready to exploit.
@Linux Lovers Get a linux x86 machine today. This thing like any real Amiga of the past, should only run AmigaOS->Next.
it is a real computer not a generic mobo.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:07:56
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| @vidarh
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Pity they're saying just a single core one, though |
The single core can handle 8 realtime threads, thats a great start.
If you want more you can add more XCores using the Xorro slot |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:08:33
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:09:21
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Yes you should have left it to the mods to lock part 2 first. Now there will be overlap, causing confusion. |
Locked now.
As said before, this thread split practice is mainly to save the layout, server, and staff time, as well as it makes it a bit easier to get an overview._________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:11:46
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Where do they say 1 core? They show the picture for all three models with the quad on the forefront! | It clearly says Quote:
"Xena" XMOS XS1-L1 128 SDS | on the moatherboard specifications.
But... it also says that you can add more XCores via the Xorro slot |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:13:22
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Ah thx. Then there is a great probability we will know more before 10th ... |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:16:24
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| I think this new machine could be the wet dream of all console and computer emulation programmers. Imagine you could play all last gen console games on your new Amiga without all the issues like slowdowns and crashes. what do you guys think how many xmos processors are needed to rebuild a PS2 for example?
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:21:37
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Will there be Linux? Please say there will be Linux, too. |
Did you ever see any piece of hardware that did NOT run Linux ?_________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:22:25
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| @Smurfen Too exited while reading and I missed that
HOWEVER: they also say that specs are subject to change and that there will be different configurations.
So my guess is that those specs resemble the prototypes they have right now, but when the AmigaOne x1000 will ship there could be 2 or 3 models to choose from (as a matter of fact Trevor already said that the CPU will run way faster than 1.5Ghz so it will not be 1.6 either, probably 2.0Ghz). _________________ SamFlex Complete 800Mhz System + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 Amiga 2000 DKB 2MB ChipRam GVP G-Force040 Picasso 2 OS3.9 BB2 AmigaCD 32 |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:22:50
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| @Smurfen
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If you want more you can add more XCores using the Xorro slot |
True, but that seems a bit wasteful when somewhere between $8 and $12 depending on quantity could've given 3 more cores / 24 more realtime threads without filling the slot... Anyway, if it gets popular I'm sure they'll stuff more cores in future models.
It'd be great if they let the XCore IO lines get wired up to other things than "just" the Xorro slot, though. Audio in/out and a C64 style "user port" for some of the lines with fuse protection would be awesome for hobby use so you could easily connect hobby projects without having to mess with an interior expansion slot... But I guess we can't get everything... I'm sure someone will come up with a Xorro card with sufficient additional connections._________________ Wiki for new/returning Amiga users - Projects: ACE basic compiler / FrexxEd / Git |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:24:43
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:25:57
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Will there be Linux? Please say there will be Linux, too. |
Did you ever see any piece of hardware that did NOT run Linux ? |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:26:16
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I just had an odd thought.....
Could you run Linux on Xena, simultaneously with OS4? |
Xena has 64kB of memory. Yes, kilobyte. And no MMU.
And while the hardware multithreading is cool, it has a rather hard limit at 8 threads.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:27:28
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HOWEVER: they also say that specs are subject to change and that there will be different configurations. |
Yes, that is a great thing!! |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:28:39
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:31:18
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Do A-Eon have plans to market the A-one X1000 with Linux and OS4 together? I think this would make sense until OS4 have a decent office and browser package. Maybe preinstalled as dualboot.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:31:53
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sorry double post. Last edited by maz77 on 05-Jan-2010 at 03:32 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3 Posted on 5-Jan-2010 15:35:16
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It would be great marketing if they sold complete systems on TV shopping channels.
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