@amije

Lol,God forbid!

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@Tommo1975

If it had a logo on startup,there would be no doubt what hardware you had to,regardles of what OS that where used :) And that would be very nice :)

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@amije

I reckon booting from floppy would be a fantastic feature! The xena cluster could act as an emulated a500 / 1200. I would love to boot Workbench 1.x to 3.1 on the X1000. Why? Well because I can!

aeon want us to tell them what to do with X.... That is just one idea to add to the list

Remember when computing was fun!?

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amije wrote: @WOSPUPOS4 Quote: THAT is the amiga way. Instant amiga on power on. Without that it will still feel like any other motherboard. at least i hope it will not run the os from a floppy

lol not if it is OS4 atleast. But the possibility to boot an os from any unit would be a must in my world. (USB/CF slot/IDE/SATA/etc)

@DAX


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DAX wrote: @ChrisH Indeed, I see people asking if it will run Linux, some other if it will run MOS etc. what I see is that unlike myself (because I've been back in the community just now after 15 years of absence) many here fail to realize that this new machine is the first real Amiga "Computer" we get after the A4000.

It's really weird, we get the first sign of a real Amiga since all of these years, and people start asking "will it run Linux"?

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It will have an Amiga case, Amiga Keyboard with "A" keys and pre-installed AmigaOS (probably even an AmigaOne X1000 branded outer carton box).

Not sure about the Amiga keyboard, where did you catch that info from?
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It is the next Amiga computer not a generic naked mobo to run as many OSs as possible.

word!!!

@steril606

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It's really weird, we get the first sign of a real Amiga since all of these years, and people start asking "will it run Linux"?

Real Amiga that would have to "soil" itself with *NIX? To quote Homer J. Simpson: Umpossible!

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@Tommo1975

No offence, but when I see most of the Amigascene generated art these days (on websites etc) I'd actually prefer they'd do this contest on some website like "deviantart".

There are tons of very talented people around there, who would probably love to design some stuff for an OS like AOS4.2, and already used to design OS-related stuff for other OSes as well.

@opi

I don't say it's bad for an Amigasystem to run Linux, or whatever you have in mind.

I just wonder why peoples first thought is along the lines of "it needs to run linux to make me happy" or even "I want to alt-tab switch to Linux when I am in AOS, this MUST be possible".

I don't have any problem with Linux (using Ubuntu for embedded AROS as well), but I would suggest to these people to get some cheapo x86 box for 50 bucks, and be happy with that, instead of forcing a halfassed Linux onto a PPC board developed for running AOS...

Even you "free minded person" must acknowledge the weirdness of these arguments...

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@ddni, WOSPUPOS4

at least it could boot a ''cut version'' of workbench from a usb stick
with or without xena in mind.

we already can boot the whole os (for rescue) from a cd written with amidvd

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@opi

Yeah, and an utterly successful one it was...

@steril606
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Amiga keyboard

Speculation
But this is a perfect case of going a single extra mile further, when if you put a custom Amiga case in production (one for each Nemo) how hard would it be to paint a couple of Keys with an "A", and putting a Boing Ball logo somewhere?

Let's remeber that at the times Sam came out these things could not be made due to the court case.

As for the Box (outer carton box) even the MiniMig has a very nice professional one so I'm pretty sure we're gonna get those things this time.

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Yeah, and an utterly successful one it was...

Like AmigaOne and Sam?

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@whose

And why was it such a "success" ? Not because it was bad, quite the contrary SUN (or was it HP ??) even planned to sell relabeled A3000s as entry-system for their range of NIX-workstations.

C=-management scewed that up (no suprise here).

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@opi

Well, about 98% of them are used to run AmigaOS as main OS. So yes, they were really successful. More successful than Linux running on those machines. Or as the A3000UX compared to the numbers of A3000 running AmigaOS only :D ;)

@steril606

Aaargh, my long reply was eaten by AmigaWorld monster! Damn it.

Let me rephrase my points in bullet points.

Me: I hate to own multiple computers. My line of work requires tools that Linux has. So, if X1000 would be my only system, Linux is a must.

Others: Having a backup system with bigger software library can come in handy when you're going to hit some file-type/project type wall. You can reboot and get things done.

Customers: you can sell your board with Linux to more customers than you can offering OS4 as only option.

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Amiga keyboard Speculation But this is a perfect case of going a single extra mile further, when if you put a custom Amiga case in production (one for each Nemo) how hard would it be to paint a couple of Keys with an "A", and putting a Boing Ball logo somewhere?

Or let's really bring this puppy up to date and include a physical 'Any' key.

@Kronos

Well, the main point is: If you utterly want Linux e.g. on your Peg, just use it. If it doesnt run on it yet, make it run. But please dont try to tell us that it is "a must". It isnt. If you have to use Linux the best way, theres still x86 in masses and dirty cheap. Its your choice.

The other machines, e.g. AOne, SAM, X1000 etc., running AmigaOS, is our choice. Its really that simple.

Ok, not for the ones who need to babble everything down to the ground, that is...

@WOSPUPOS4

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WOSPUPOS4 wrote: Quote: Caveman wrote: @WOSPUPOS4 That would be great :) Something like this for example.

Your logo is cool... My best respect!

It really inspired me...

So have mine of this in return as homage to your art, please...

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@Mechanic

Next to the any-key there could also be a single key labled control amiga - amiga

Oh... and an alt Left Amiga and an alt Right Amiga button, just in case the mouse stops working

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@opi

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opi wrote: Customers: you can sell your board with Linux to more customers than you can offering OS4 as only option.

Are you serious? You think people will buy some 1200ish ¤ Box for running Linux, when you can run Linux on some run-o-the-mill x86 thingy for 200 quid with an around 10 times better experience?



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Same with those supposed industry customers for the SAM. My guess how many of those were sold for embedded uses: 0
And let's be real here, I don't think any considerable amount of people outside of the Amiga community bought the Sam for using Linux. It's maybe a nice-to-have for people already running AOS, or for the times when AOS wasn't yet running on it, but most people bought it simply for running AOS, or the prospect of being able to run it in the future...
Everything else said on this argument is just nonsense imho..

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