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DrZarkov 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:44:05
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There is a misunderstanding. I have nothing to do with the developement or marketing of the X1000, I just enjoy to see the new hardware.

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TheDaddy 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:44:49
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>>RealTime raytracing can be done with GP-GPU (or those 102.000 mips ) all you need is the software that handles it and a powerfull Video Card on PCI-E 16X.



Excellent! So someone start working on the Xena chip then...c'mon no time to waste!

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-pekr- 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:45:40
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OK, machine specs looks at least on par with recent PCs (well, still probably slower than iCores, but the speed of CPU itself is not qualified measure).

But - I strictly require that my PC handles FullHD video, so that it has proper codec support in HW. As for the specs, gfx part is not covered at all. I just hope it will not be a let-down, or some lame chipset embedded gfx. Such high-end machine deserves high-end gfx, and I don't care if it is nVidia, ATI, or even S3, as far as I can get fullHD support in HW.

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Thom_Holwerda 
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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:47:51
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There we go.

http://www.osnews.com/story/22693/New_Amiga_Sports_Programmable_Co-Processor_Dualcore_PPC

Thanks for the fun few days guessing, guys. We should do this more often ;).

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gregthecanuck 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:48:26
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@-pekr-

The thing is - now the hardware is not the limit. It's back to software again.

It is all down to how fast the software drivers can be written to handle the PCI-Express video cards, and then on top of that the framework for offloading the decoding. More standard libraries and APIs would be required.

Sounds like Hans is going to be busy. :)

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KimmoK 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@Treke

No insider info, but CES is ongoing.
And I think the CPU will be revealed during these days.


We have been yelling after L2 cache for SAM boxes.
Interesting if we get L0 caches to play with as well, with the CPU....

+
Hyperion, what's the plan to get X also for the entry level machine?
Via FPGA connector or via PCI or?

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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I bet 1.5Ghz. As the starting point.
Perhaps higher if only one core is loaded.

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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@Thom_Holwerda
cool!
:)

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DBAlex 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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@Thom_Holwerda

Nice! I commented

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Radfoo 
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Sounds like a nice powerful mobo/CPU, but is this actually the MAP itself? Other than XMOS chip I don't see anything different to the other hardware supported by OS4.

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NEO 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:54:11
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Quote:

ddni wrote:
@all

They state on the X1000 site that

"As Commodore did with the A1000, we're aiming at the high-end first, with a powerful desktop computer aimed at the professional and serious hobbyist markets (although you won't have to wait until summer, and it should be a little cheaper!)"

I think they mean that the A1000 was released in Summer 1985 (July 24th) and cost 1295 USD.
The X1000 will be less expensive and out before the Summer..... !!!

BUT

Is that less than the 1985 1295USD or the equivalent today of 1950USD ???



I'm mostly interested in what professional markets they are aiming at and if they have a strategy here and if so, what it is.

Don't get me wrong here. I love this stuffs and I hope for all the best. But so far it doesn't fell that professional, but we don't have all the bits an pieces yet... But still. What professional market could it be?

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DAX 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 13:54:55
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@Zylesea
I know that, but it reminds me of my A2000, when I bought it in the 80s it came with OCS and a 7Mhz MC68000, still there was a lot of potential.

Some even upgraded it with a DKB Wildfire and Inferno VideoCard (the card connected directly to the board through some sort of PCI slot, it even had on board Ram, HD controller and Ethernet).

As the base we get a dual core PPC (as Trevor said above clocked way higher than 1.5Ghz), an XCORE (don take the smallest example, as the top option has the same number of Mips as an AmigaOne G4) and a PCI-E 16X bus waiting to be populated with a latest generation Radeon Card.

Expandability is at A2000/A4000 levels though which is mighty impressive.

Consider all the goodies we'll get in the Next AmigaOS too (to support SMP, 64-Bit, PCI-E VideoCards, XCORE etc.)

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ONLY_AMIGA 
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Price: between 2000/2200 Euros ?

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Caveman 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
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reading between the lines,it seems like there is a "x500" in the pipeline to? Or is it me boiling over of joy?

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BigBentheAussie 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:00:43
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I don't agree. It is great hardware. It is expensive. I want something everybody sees when he enters our living-room. A stylish big tower it will be for me.


NOOOOOOO!!!! Shape it like A1000, with a wireless keyboard garage, for the living room.
Make it address the home appliance area as well... Pleeeeeeaasse.

It is called an X1000 after-all. That's an excellent name btw.


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Spectre660 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:02:00
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Quote:

AmigaBlitter wrote:
@WillKar

Amigaworld was unreachable. Too many concurrent connections?



Other non Amiga sites were not available too at the same time so Internet problem. maybe DNS related ?

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Treke 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:02:09
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@KimmoK

I see .
So you say the reason for all the secrecy is that AMCC wants to reveal the chip at CES real soon ... ?
But searching on http://www.cesweb.org/ gives no results for AMCC.
Anyways, CES ends on 10th.
But I guess it is simply not mass production ready...

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KimmoK 
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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:03:16
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In Finland A1000 cost 2500¤ when it came.
I expect X1000 to cost 2495¤ with AOS4.1.1beta.

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Smurfen 
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Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:04:01
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@Spectre660

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Other non Amiga sites were not available too at the same time so Internet problem. maybe DNS related ?


I do not think so, DNS and ping worked fine, it seems the webserver was having problems.

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AmigaBlitter 
Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 3
Posted on 5-Jan-2010 14:05:18
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@Thom_Holwerda

There will be other to reveal, not only related to X....

be ready Tom ;)

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