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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 15:54:23
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I mirrored them each day. With A-Eon's permission, I could host them (somewhere) and have them available in chronological order so people could see them as we did.
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I want to made you all my thanks for you are mirroring a very interesting and funny moment of the Amiga History.
Do not listen people talking of over-zealotry!
Amiga it is the only platoform in which even the announcements of new hardware makes our boring lifes with a little of salt and pepper and being teasing and funny...
Other platforms announcement are so serious and grave in comparison to us.
Enjoy Amiga...
...(And Keep Alive testimonies of its history for future readers)._________________ "When the Amiga came out, everyone [at Apple] was scared as hell." (J.L. Gassée, former CEO of Apple France and chief of devs of Mac II-fx, interviewed by Amazing Computing, Nov 1996). |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 16:09:31
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 16:15:58
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It has been stated elsewhere on aw.net by TrevorD that the riddle was made because they knew that the community expected some news around new year - that's why they made the pages.
There will be an official press-release later. _________________ Maintainer of www.bigbookofamigahardware.com |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 17:10:28
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 17:17:55
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Yes, I saw it. I wonder what it says? |
It's a 404 'Page not found' error in Chinese.
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 17:59:19
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It doesn't benefit Hyperion to hold back confirming a partnership with A-Eon. It's almost as if they want to perpetuate this random guessing and wasteful prediction process! |
I really don't see why they HAVE to "confirm" it. Rogue & Hyperionmp have revealed details unknown to the public. It's clear to anyone except extreme paranoids that it will run OS4 in some fashion. Comparisons with ACK don't bear scrutiny.
If you want to be suspicious, maybe they haven't announced OS4 for it yet, because it'll run "OS5" (OS4 rewritten for dual-core, etc)? So announcing it'd run OS4 would technically be a lie... At least, once they officially announce OS4 for it, they will be expected to give details about how well it will support the dual-core CPU & Xena, and they may not be *quite* ready to do that yet.Last edited by ChrisH on 13-Jan-2010 at 06:01 PM.
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 18:17:50
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 19:12:00
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I really don't see why they HAVE to "confirm" it. Rogue & Hyperionmp have revealed details unknown to the public. It's clear to anyone except extreme paranoids that it will run OS4 in some fashion. Comparisons with ACK don't bear scrutiny. |
Well, perhaps ACK and Troika aren't the best examples, but how about comparing with Moana?
It was hinted for a long time, and in the end, we all know what became of it.
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 13-Jan-2010 19:24:56
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Moana was not officialy announced. |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 14-Jan-2010 7:20:26
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Moana was not officialy announced. |
Moana was also neither offical released...
It just run in the wild a pirated copy of a development version of it and this infamous situation disgusted so much the developers that they ceased any further coding of Moana...
(and this was the real only official announcement) _________________ "When the Amiga came out, everyone [at Apple] was scared as hell." (J.L. Gassée, former CEO of Apple France and chief of devs of Mac II-fx, interviewed by Amazing Computing, Nov 1996). |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 15-Jan-2010 5:11:45
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It doesn't benefit Hyperion to hold back confirming a partnership with A-Eon. |
From the fact that the a-eom site is now timing out, along with the hyperion site (due to the recent release of the OS 4.1 update 1), it would even seem that Hyperion is hosting the a-eon site for them. It's very hard to dispute this now.
It's not hurting them to not make a specific press release that they're in partnership with A-Eon. It's blatantly obvious. It would seem that only bitter members of this community are the only people who seem to have issues with the situation. |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 15-Jan-2010 5:33:02
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Moana was not officialy announced. |
Not from Hyperion no. But, they have not acknowledged AmigaOne X1000 either.
Don't you think we have had enough of this kind of hardware announcements, a third party telling about "new hardware for AmigaOS", without confirmation from the OS-makers?_________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 15-Jan-2010 5:42:52
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Moana was also neither offical released... |
It wasn't no. But still it was necessary to pre-promote it in forums? The same thing A-Eon has done so succesfully.
This riddle was a genious move PR-wise, I just hope the hardware support gets confirmed from Hyperion soon so it doesn't become just another chapter of "what could have been"._________________ Site admins are people too..pooff! |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 17-Jan-2010 12:26:40
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tomazkid wrote: @Raffaele
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Moana was also neither offical released... |
It wasn't no. But still it was necessary to pre-promote it in forums? The same thing A-Eon has done so succesfully.
This riddle was a genious move PR-wise, I just hope the hardware support gets confirmed from Hyperion soon so it doesn't become just another chapter of "what could have been". |
I agree about riddle being a smart genious move...
I agree about we all want to see solid silicon presented officially in any Amiga events.
But again Moana was only ruomored, no pre-promoted.
It was us who have inside informations and unconfirmed comments from ACube who rumored the Moana project and created the hype (I was in that number), and if I remember well, despite of the fact Moana has been pirated, then only pre-promoting of it was infatcs from Bill Mc Ewen stating "we have even AmigaOS running on Macintoshes" or something similar. (Other people may remember better than me and recall the links to the right discussions in which there was buzzing about Moana)._________________ "When the Amiga came out, everyone [at Apple] was scared as hell." (J.L. Gassée, former CEO of Apple France and chief of devs of Mac II-fx, interviewed by Amazing Computing, Nov 1996). |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 17-Jan-2010 12:30:24
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 18-Jan-2010 1:41:09
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First... sorry for me english... and ... all is only from what i find on internet...
Project Moana:
NOT NEED ANNY PERMISSION FROM APPLE... is 1.logical 2.all newer PPC Apple have OpenFirmware (=standart for PPC and legal door/help for alternative OS)
I think... "Pirates" version of Moana is low/none-cost "developerboard" and PR for AmigaOS4, Hyperion, MAP, etc... Whole AmigaOS4 on MacMini is same as for A1... different is "only" patched bootloader, some macmini drivers ... "Pirates" version don´t have drivers for USB MassStorage, Soundcard, Network/Wifi/BT... bootloader compiled only with CD boot support. In theory this is not for normal usage... but really works.
Unofficially-officially is on internet info about work by Andrea Vallinotto 14 month on AmigaOS4 port to Apple PPC (drivers,bootloader, etc..). Andrea Vallinotto is official coworker for Hyperion for OS4+, minimal for: UBootPrefs, MediaToolbox, ScsiSpeed(from 2007),some code for rtg.library, BIOSUpdater, SLB_V2(SecondLevel bootloader)
I hope that Moana will be part of MAP = use PPC Apple as lowpower HW for OS4x...
And X1000 ?
Simply Genial-Mysterious PR/MessageToCommunity... people for people.. unofficially-officially - Rogue post 31.1.2009 screenshot with status of Timberwolf with a-eon.com (Rogue is also (co?)worker for Hyperion) - on a-eon.com one clue for one day... Rogue, TrevorD and others Hyperions (co?)worker post reply/answer... - 5.1.2009 - X1000 specification... know is: high-end board,XCore, MIN CPU spefification & MAX price & MAX final date... - 14.1.2009 - with OS4.1 Update1 Hyperion say: "Hyperion Entertainment wishes to thank its loyal customerbase for their continued support without which the recently revealed project with A-EON Technology would not have been possible.
I hope that in MAP is regular Amiga comeback... second multiMediA-comPuter-revolution presented by X1000...
I think that in MAP is interest MANY people... from Amiga/OpenSource developers, old/new Amiga owners/lovers, some of old Amiga makers and some genius... .... or i´m extreme paranoid... :)
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 18-Jan-2010 2:22:31
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| What does this MAP word mean?
I have seen it a few times and not sure what it is all about.
Just curious.
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 18-Jan-2010 3:16:45
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"Most Ambitious Project" - when Hyperion mentioned they'd have something new out in Q4/2009, this is what they later dubbed it as - their "Most Ambitious Project Ever", hence MAP. _________________ The problem with AmigaOS on PPC isn't that PPC is big-endian. The problem with AmigaOS on PPC is that PPC is dead-endian. |
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 18-Jan-2010 3:40:50
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I believe the MAP was first mentioned when they upgraded their web site, and everyone had to re-register. They said they upgraded it in preparation for their most ambitious project yet.
Read the news item here (Feb 2009)
Ok.. for their 10th anniversary, not in preparation for M.A.P. (but it was the first mention of M.A.P. )
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Re: Save the pages of the AmigaONE X1000 Riddle!!! Posted on 18-Jan-2010 6:21:08
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It just run in the wild a pirated copy of a development version of it and this infamous situation disgusted so much the developers that they ceased any further coding of Moana... |
I thought that development of Moana stopped around a year prior to the pirated version becoming available and the reason for development stopping was down Amiga Inc's lack of willingness to work out a contract for it to be made available for sale. |
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