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Kronos 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 15:02:25
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@ChrisH

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ChrisH wrote:

Due to factors outside of their control, such as Amiga Inc being unable to supply the AmigaOS source code they were supposed to, due to Haage & Partner not supply the PPC kernel they were supposed to, due to legal disagreements with Amiga Inc, etc.


OMFNTUMA !!! (OhMyGodNotThatUrbanMythAgain)

Hyperion did buy the reworked 3.1 sources from Olaf Barthel atleast a month BEFORE they signed the OS4-contract, so it's quite hard to argue that OS4 was delayed because they didn't get the nasty&messy orginal sources ....... and in all that legal BS they never filled a single document even suggesting that they had asked for them ....


Bout H&P not handing over that kernel (if it even existed), though luck !! Thats something that should have been checked BEFORE signing anything (just like the status of Eyetech's HW). Can't really blame anybody else for failling even the most basic buisness rules.

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Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 17:48:44
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KimmoK wrote:
@AmigaHeretic

" Extreme Engineering Solutions? They have only been around for 7 years."

To me they seem to have existed at least 13 years in some form:
http://www.xes-inc.com/press/030201.html



I'm not sure where you are getting the 13 years from... the link you provided is from January of 2003... 7 years ago.

If you go to there "About" page is where I was getting my original time. The compnay formed in 2002 or around 7 and 1/2 years ago.


@HyperionMP

Could explain the 15 years of never failing to deliver statement??

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Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 18:33:00
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@Leo

"Why shouldn't he be here ? Simply because it doesn't blindy believe in some words ?"

Do you really think he'll buy one. I don't think so.

Chris

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Salup 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 18:52:42
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@AmigaHeretic

Can you point me in the direction of where it was confirmed that Extreme Engineering Solutions is involved with this? I must have missed that piece of information.

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steril606 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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@Leo

sorry for a little bit offtopic here, but after reading your posts day in day out, I have one question for you:

What the heck are you still doing here, if everything surrounding Amiga is obviously complete and utter poo for you?

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cha05e90 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 19:15:57
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@steril606

I suppose it's part of his therapy.

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Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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@Leo

sorry for a little bit offtopic here, but after reading your posts day in day out, I have one question for you: What the heck are you still doing here, if everything surrounding Amiga is obviously complete and utter poo for you?

He is enjoying his freedom of speech, as he has numerously pointed out

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BillE 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 20:12:59
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Big cans of beer? Is that all we're known for? Doesn't Austria make beer too?


No doubt they do and they must be a damned sight better at it. I never realised they made beer in Australia, just Fosters and XXXX.

Actually you do have Coopers real ale which is quite decent but much harder to find than the international cr*p.


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What other cool things can we be known for?


Probably everything BUT the beer, Australia and beer is not a thing you tend to think of apart from the junk lager - which is not beer anyway but just a few chemicals mixed together.

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BillE 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 20:15:54
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One has to really wonder if it's truly a "new design" or a design that has been worked on by other companies which A-EON purchased and tweaked. What bothers me is the XMOS chip, it doesn't bring much to the desktop experience,


It must be better than using a poor imitation OS like AROS on a generic PC surely.

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Hyperionmp 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 20:26:56
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@Kronos

The fact is that there was an explicit undertaking that the 3.1 source-code would be delivered together with the 3.5 and 3.9 source-code.

It was not. This caused major delays and in fact, several features of 3.9 were missing from the initial 4.0 for that very reason.

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steril606 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 20:28:58
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BillE wrote:
@damocles

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One has to really wonder if it's truly a "new design" or a design that has been worked on by other companies which A-EON purchased and tweaked. What bothers me is the XMOS chip, it doesn't bring much to the desktop experience,


It must be better than using a poor imitation OS like AROS on a generic PC surely.


The Gauntlet has been thrown... Come on, people, we need at least 10 pages of "why your Amiga OS flavour is poo compared to mine" now.

Anything less would disappoint me.

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DAX 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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@Kronos
Hyperion is s*it because 2002 this, 2004 that...
For whatever reason Hyperion delayed what's been delayed (reasons that probably you have no idea about), today we are in a different situation and whether you like it or not, those times are gone.
They did good last year when the settlement was still up in the air, they will do much better this year with the settlement in place.
You might as well start living with it (just a suggestion for your health ).

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steril606 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 20:30:59
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@DAX

I, for one, welcome our new Belgian/German Overlords. May their OS be as tasty as their beer over there.


add/edit: 333 posts!!! Need to drink a wodka shot now...

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Antique 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 20:35:17
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@steril606

I'm not a beerguy. I tend to drink vodka instead.

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opi 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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@BillE

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It must be better than using a poor imitation OS like AROS on a generic PC surely.


I hope you write your own jokes. Paying for such weak stuff would be very bad.

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Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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You might as well start living with it


I have no problem with current situation, it's the past that some people try to whitewash make me irritated.

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

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Re: x1000 is Vaporware
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@opi
So let's learn from the past, but let's not cling to it and pray for it to repeat itself (or advocate it will with adamant certainty), like some do... (that comment nor this one were aimed at you btw).

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Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 21:34:54
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Extreme Engineering Solutions

I don't want to cause more confusion but what has Extreme Engineering Solutions got to do with anything?

TrevorD

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Mechanic 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 21:39:23
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@damocles

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it's there because it's an embedded mobo being pressed into desktop market.


Yes,well....

As an aficionado close to inside info from parties that may not be reveled for
secretive reasons, I can say that this minuscule ATX complete computer system
was originally designed as a watchdog system to make sure the light inside
the refrigerator goes off when the door is closed. Soon we can all breath easy.

Have you checked yours recently ?

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ddni 
Re: x1000 is Vaporware
Posted on 17-Feb-2010 21:42:24
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@Thread

Is it not possible that XMOS are the Nemo designers?
Perhaps they wanted to commission a custom mobo that will serve as a hobbyist dream?

This in discussion with TrevorDick led to the realisation that they could kill two birds with one stone and also create a new AmigaOne?
With the result of attracting a whole new community of HW junkies to the XCORE fold?

The acid test will be if XMOS start to port their dev tools to PPC architecture or even better OS4

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