@damocles

He could have purchased the PA6T from Apple. They didn't want to bother with it, but the government/military pressured them to keep it in production. Could be a way for them to get rid of a hassle they don't want.

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@billt

That sounds like a likely option to me.

But on the other hand it could simply be that Apple stockpiled a few thousands PA6Ts and send them out as required. Agnilux could be doing anything...

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Agnilux could be doing anything...

Indeed. Here's hoping it's really cool and somehow relevant to us.

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He could have purchased the PA6T from Apple. They didn't want to bother with it, but the government/military pressured them to keep it in production. Could be a way for them to get rid of a hassle they don't want.

I'll bite, what was the last hardware IP Apple sold? PPC IP would be a great example of old tech Apple doesn't need that they sold off, what examples of PPC IP has Apple sold off?

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@damocles

IMO, they do not need to sell out the IP. They could also have sold only the licence to PA6T production.


In that case Agnilux might be using existing PA6T design for the CISCO product they are designing.

But Agnilux already have some of their old (PASemi) chip design capability and press info hints that they are designing new telecom/network chip(s)... this time it could be also MIPS related....

.... interesting ....

"But that same former PA Semi employee tells me that Agnilux is working on some kind of server, and that the company has a partnership in place with Cisco."

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KimmoK wrote: @damocles They could also have sold only the licence to PA6T production.

Let me remember the PA6Z was a CPU you could never get on the normal market, so after never selling this CPU you thinmk they might sell the licence ... strange.

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Back to Agnilux ...

the developers once working for PA-Semi did some work on ARM CPUs before, they are specialists for CPUs with reduced power consumption, they know how to devide a CPU in seperate modules that could be send into sleep mode. As far as I know they founded PA-Semi because they saw a chance to sell PPC CPUs for Apple notebooks, IMR they also had some pre-contracts with Apple.

Today they are free to search for another market, I think they would do everything else but PPC.

The embedded and mobile market is still looking for powerful CPUs with a lot of I/O and GFX on board, I think you will find them doing development for CPUs based on ARM, MIPS, PPC and integrating GPU and Ethernet but I don't think they will ever made CPUs with more than 1.2-1.6 Ghz and you will hardly find Altivec in this embedded CPUs.

But that's only what I think about Agnilux, if you ask for Agniliux and A-EON, Agnilux just started their business. According to their WWW-Site they don't have much to sell.

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@Apple_hammer

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@Arko

The unnormal market might still want those PA6T chips. BinLaden is not dead yet.
Apple might be willing to get rid off the pressure of the military.


about Agnilux... I think Cisco (one of their partners) is interested in MIPS and PPC.
((I think Cisco does not have a product powered with PA6T, yet.))

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thats all on agnilux webpage.

""""
Approaching on N. First St. from the Trimble Road side, you can turn left on Component Drive and right into the parking lot for the buildings. Approaching on N. First St. from the south (Charcot Ave, Guadalupe Pkwy/Highway-87, Brokaw Rd, Highway 101 side), you can turn right directly into the parking lot. The visitor entrance is on the N First St side of the building (across from the lightrail station).
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maybe somebody live near that and can visite them and aks for the new Amiga X1000 or X1000 CPU

what they say.if they say no comment or if they say, they have nothing to do with that

when they put such thing as the vistor entrance on a website then it seem they maybe like to get vistors.

I never see a webpage with the only content is a route to the visitor entrance

I don't think they would base their business plan on selling 1000+ X1000 computers... They need something solid. This "we can't disclose CPU" is just some sort of thing to make people think it's important...

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@Hondo

hehehehe, interesting words against Kronos there.

But if you really want true amiga negativity, a few years ago, Amiga.org was the place to be for it.

Not sure ifthis is a fair comparison though, considering that was a few years back before this SAM, etc, type of gear was coming onto the Amiga scene.

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@Gebrochen

He had it coming for years now, and honestly I don't care how he feels about it....he deserves it. He's only here to spread negativity and FUD and I'm sick and tired of it. They even keep our core developers away from here, because they too dont like being here.

But he's not alone trying to ruin every good AOS vibe here, I can quickly name a few more.

Leo
Crumb
Damocles
Opi
Koft
realize
pixie
bernd_afa

Just to name a few of the spoilers (I would ban them If I could)

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@Hondo

"lock them up and throw away the key" hehe.

I must admit even I have good and bad days here - sometimes I feel right behind the cause but sometimes all the delays and nonsensical mystery does make me want to stir the pot myself. After all, no one is really in this to make money, its just a hobby for everyone involved at whatever level.

Its why I guess I never understood the lawsuits and all that, what was everyone protecting? Their multi-million pound return on OS4 or hardware investments? I personally wouldn't take anything too seriously on here. Nothing that happens is going to set the world on fire, just enjoy the platform and let Hyperion/A-EON prove the flamers wrong - if that's what the next chapter of the Amiga story is meant to be, it will be.

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@A1200

I think that there are definitely people who want to make a good business from Amiga, and I salute them!

The world is full of small businesses with turn overs of < £1,000,000 per year.
If you can sell a 1000 systems at £1250 each, then you a very comfortably in that ball park.

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@ddni

I know I run a few, but I wouldn't want to get involved with something with all the grief in the first place. I guess it provides us with new products and the entertainment value is great fun, so if they are happy doing it - long live the platform (whichever bit you support).

Edit: what am I saying, one does less than 1M, the other does significantly more.

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@Hondo
While I would agree that there are one or two people who should definitely be banned, I'm not so sure about many on your list:

Opi & Damocles aren't exactly super positive, but I don't feel their primary purpose being here is to spam negativity & FUD on some pet hate either. You should NOT ban someone just because they dislike something (free speech and all that) - as long as they don't go out of their way to make everyone's life a misery (which is what trolls do).

Crumb seems to have lightened-up these days (or at least bites his lip a bit), so I don't think he should be banned either. (Yeah, he can still make a few snarky comments about Hyperion, but unless we want to live in a hermetically sealed box, one has to have a certain thickness of skin.)

Not sure about at least a couple of other names either (but since I'm not a mod, there really isn't much point in me keeping track of everyones behaviour to be sure).

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While I would agree that there are one or two people who should definitely be banned, I'm not so sure about many on your list:

There's a LIST
Am I on it
Me! Me! I wanna be on the LIST

Phooey!

@Mechanic

Consider it done


Mechanic
Leo
Crumb
Damocles
Opi
Koft
realize
pixie
bernd_afa

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@Hondo

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@Mechanic Consider it done Mechanic Leo Crumb Damocles Opi Koft realize pixie bernd_afa

Whoopee! Hey Ma! I'm on the LIST! I'm on the LIST!

IMO it should not be a processor from agnilux. I can't pronounce that.

@Hondo

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Hondo wrote: @Mechanic Consider it done Mechanic Leo Crumb Damocles Opi Koft realize pixie bernd_afa

I'm not on the list.

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