@KimmoK

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KimmoK wrote: In the end... It would be nice if AROS becomes the winner in the long run, it could leave the big egoes whining after their lost fame.

There ain't NO way in Hell
AROS would ever overtake Windohs or Linux.
Wake Up

@Mechanic

I think he was referring to OS 4 and MorphOS, not Windows and Linux.

Chirs

@KimmoK

Well, Phase5 had a hw & sw product in the first place. Then H&P felt the need to control the market, and created this insane agenda supported on fora, mailing lists, newsgroups by ignorant trolls about PowerUP sucking and WarpOS being better and x times faster (even though it was proven wrong countless times).

This bruteforce agenda worked so well H&P actually "won" and managed to inject their stuff in the next OS incarnation, even though their product was inferior in the end. Obviously, this silly war just resulted in less PPC boards sales because of all this mess, many developers didn't bother developing for any of these systems, and many users didn't consider the PPC solution.

You can understand the bitterness it caused, can't you? And a couple years later, you see some of the individuals who participated in this doing it again with OS4...

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@KimmoK

I find myself falling more and more into the AROS camp, I'm tired of proprietary closed source OSs telling me what I want. It's also free, I just run it in a Virtualbox. I remain open to Morphos and AmigaOS 4, but they just don't excite me at this point.

@clebin

Yes I meant on our niche.

@Fab

Well said. Explains well how it looked like from the blue side.

Stupid war anyway, human is fallible & too interested in control & power.


about AROS:

btw. what's the color of AROS?
Pink?

Nice to see aros developing...
http://aros.sourceforge.net/

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@Fab

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You can understand the bitterness it caused, can't you? And a couple years later, you see some of the individuals who participated in this doing it again with OS4...

You can understand the bitterness it caused, can't you? And a couple years later, you see some of the individuals who participated in this doing it again with MorphOS...

@pavlor

No, you revisit history here. MorphOS was developed just after PowerUP, at the same time (or even before) as OS3.5.

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@Fab
You mean a group of programmers were asked/contracted by copyright holders to develop OS3.5 for them? Or was it a private initiative?

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@Fab

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and was released officially in 2000.

Operating system that needs parts of other operating system to work doesn´t look complete...

We can argue about history, but in the end both sides wil still say: "We don´t start the fire!"

As usual, on the beginning was misunderstanding, big egos and mix of pride and good intentions. The rest we know all.

@Fab

OS3.9 was released in December 2000... OS3.5 was released in October 1999.

Source: http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz71.htm

Edit: wrong date, source

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@DAX

Some developers were screwed by OS 3.9, at least. See the nice story about illegal genesis included with OS3.9.

@Fab
I have magazines (back issues I got here) from october 1999 but not earlier (well i have others from 1994 and back though . Anyway, here they say H&P developed it, so I'm asking: if H&P was contracted for the official Amiga OS 3.5, who asked the other group/what arrangements did they have?

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@pavlor

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OS3.9 was released in December 2000... OS3.5 was released in October 1999.

Right, but the idea of a new PPC OS was already in the author's plans in the PowerUP times, which predates OS3.5. :)

@DAX

I don't have the answer to this , it's a bit too far and i was not following that closely at that time. My guess is a lot of political crap happened behind the curtains. :)

Is this thread nearing 100% waste of time?

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@Fab

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Right, but the idea of a new PPC OS was already in the author's plans in the PowerUP times, which predates OS3.5. :)

Even Amiga Technologies (Escom) planned PowerPC OS...

@KimmoK

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Is this thread nearing 100% waste of time?

Yes.

@clebin

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clebin wrote: @Mechanic I think he was referring to OS 4 and MorphOS, not Windows and Linux. Chirs

@KimmoK

We agree(!), it is. :)

@Pavlor

But in this case, it was more than wishful thinking. :)

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@Mechanic

"Tongue-in-cheek" is not allowed on these serious matters!


/me putting my multicolour mode BACK on ... or trying to

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