@realize

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realize wrote: @Derfs search this site for the thread.... the dev took $$ for OWB and now halts development without full features... You would think he would at least bug fix the current version. fab does owb port for morph for FREE and its WAAAY ahead. This is one of the things holding back my os4 purchase atm no good web browser

Will he at least release the full source so that someone else can take over??
Because i personally think that OWB would be better for those lower end amigas like lower end sam models and classic.

I am happy that we are getting firefox, but i think OWB is just as needed.

@ChrisH

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No memory leak here with OWB. I guess must be a problem with your system, or that you are using an old version of OS4.

It is only some sites that cause these memory issues. And i am btw running latest updates and have zero stability issues otherwise. It is always the same sites that cause this issue while OWB is rock stable with other sites.


And it surely aint bug fixed if people like me are still having such issues. Just because you havent come across this bug dosent mean it is fine.
Also this browser will soon become outdated and unsecure now that development has ceased.

Edit: What is wrong with Amigaworld?? I cant post a reply.. browser tries to open/download post.php file instead.
Edit: clearing cache/cookies seemed to solve it.

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@Thematic

If left alone, with open pages, the memory doesn't seem to drop most of the time. But it has happened that I return to my A1 and find it locked up (OWB open).

@Tomas

I wouldn't say it disappears in seconds/minutes, but sometimes it really vanishes fast. It depends on usage, even though I mostly use all the same sites.

This seems to really do it, on the team selection page (flash, I think):
www.hattrick.org

Really starts to slow down after opening it. On every other option this site seems to work ok.

@Tomas

Edit: What is wrong with Amigaworld?? I cant post a reply.. browser tries to open/download post.php file instead.

Let's see if I can.

No problem here. It must be on your end.

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@brandonlee
Have you tried wunderground.com? I just did another test with that site earlier with 190meg free and saw it drop to 24meg within a minute just browsing around on that site.

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@Tomas

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Tomas wrote: @brandonlee Have you tried wunderground.com? I just did another test with that site earlier with 190meg free and saw it drop to 24meg within a minute just browsing around on that site.

it used even more memory than that browsing on firefox - win32. when you quit OWB do you get the memory back?

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Derfs wrote: @Tomas Quote: Tomas wrote: @brandonlee Have you tried wunderground.com? I just did another test with that site earlier with 190meg free and saw it drop to 24meg within a minute just browsing around on that site. it used even more memory than that browsing on firefox - win32. when you quit OWB do you get the memory back?

Depends on if i quit in time.. If i quit it after it has gone below 0meg for a while and started swapping then it will very likely just lock up/crash fully and then no way to get memory back.

Probably just a bug that occurred on this particular revision of WebKit. It doesn't seem to happen in current ones.

@Fab

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Fab wrote: Probably just a bug that occurred on this particular revision of WebKit. It doesn't seem to happen in current ones.

I think it started happening with 3.29 or version before that. Overall it is still alot more stable than previous versions except for that memory leak issue.

@Tomas

Other than the leak, I have absolutely no problems with OWB. Never misbehaves in any other operation.

The site you mentioned does indeed eat up memory like crazy... ;(

@BrandonLee
Exactly.. This is why i am so sad that it has been discontinued already. Stability wise it is nearly rock solid and actually more stable than firefox under linux for me. I have even managed to get over 1 month uptime now several times even thugh i have been using this box daily.
With previous versions i was lucky to get more than a few days, as it was nearly always OWB or ibrowse that killed my uptimes.

Edit: Oh yeah.. Also love how fast OWB starts now on my sam 533mhz compared to previous versions.

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@Tomas

IBrowse is much worse in that respect, yes. Sometimes, it's rock solid for hours, others it crashes every time I breath.

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Edit: Oh yeah.. Also love how fast OWB starts now on my sam 533mhz compared to previous versions.

There is a file named "urlhistory.xml" in the OWB directory. This file stores every url you visit & gets loaded every time you start OWB. Everyone comments on how fast every new version starts & it's because that file is just created. I noticed that OWB was taking to long to start one day, I moved that file out of the directory & OWB started much faster, I also noticed that the file re-created itself. I then watched it grow with every use of OWB. I have since set the write protection flag on that file & it no longer grows, OWB continues to start very fast now.

I deleted the urlhistory.xml file, I started OWB which re-creates the file, I then set the write protection flag "on", file size remaims at 120 bits now.

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I left OWB on facebook for an hour or so and then I noticed is had eaten up all memory and started swapping when I deactvated the screen blanker (music stuttered). Left it there for another half hour or so and then OWB crashed. It does leak.

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@Deniil715

I can confirm it. Facebook also displays the "leaking memory" problem.
Especially some functionalities, like the "friend list."

@BrandonLee

I don't really think it's a leaking trouble but it may come from somes site that relaod themselves (as FaceBook) every n minutes.

I see the same behaviour with FireFox on Linux. On my AmigaOne, I have 1GB memory so iy doesn't cause me much trouble but on a machine with, let's say 256 Mb ram, you'll rapidly come to have no more free ram.

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Tried the "wunderground" site with OWB and I can confirm that it eats up memory as you browse. Possibly some bug in WebKit is not releasing memory as it becomes surplus to requirements.

It's hardly Joerg's fault. In any case, the memory is all returned to the system on exit, so you can't really call it a "leak". A memory "leak" is usually taken to mean that memory is lost for ever and never recovered (eg if the pointer to it is destroyed and you don't know the address any more to release it).

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@tonyw
Well... If you wait a bit after it dips below 0meg free then it wont be released again. It will either lead OWB to become completely locked up or it locks up the whole system.
I have more than once forgot to turn off OWB and found system frozen due to it eating up all ram and swap.

It really sucks that you have to keep attention to the system memory at all times.

@BrandonLee

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I can confirm it. Facebook also displays the "leaking memory" problem.

I'm betting on problems with JS interpreter. This may be a bug in WebKit or a JS code that does not care for memory footprint. With Facebook your brower is constantly running few AJAX loops handling new events, chats and news stream.

Try touch.facebook.com and see if its stops.

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