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Poll : What do you think we should do with CUSA posts?
Let them be all the time .... CUSA has Amiga name, I like it and other reasons
It should be discussed after the product is realised
It shouldn`t be promoted at all at AW.net
Every user that promotes it against other Amigas should get abuse points
 
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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
Posted on 6-Feb-2011 16:44:45
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nVidia Tegra 2 3D" is rated around 13 000 MIPS(expected at the end of 2011) vs 8800 MIPS for PA-6T. OK, not fair to directly compare 2 different architectures... For comparison... Intel's i7 i980EE 147,600 MIPS


Perhaps Hyperion has some new algorithm that will boost PA-6T
to unimaginable speeds... Btw. long time no word from them...Either form AEon...
Perhaps another cake is in progress ? I would rather prefer X1000 instead of another
bakery products...


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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
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@eXec

Yup! Cake in progress!

Imagine, CUSA just demonstrated empty case with no hadrware!

I believe that deserves cake, too!

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@vox

I`m glad about that... Cakes are fine...but too much sugar
brings diabetes..

About CUSA... there is a whole bunch of top rated
hardware boards and all other parts...
Asus, Gygabyte...Nvidia GTX580, DDR III...SSD...
Everything is out there... for a fair price and directly
available in the shopping centers.

btw. you forgot to quote anything from Wikipedia...

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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
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@vox

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Imagine, CUSA just demonstrated empty case with no hadrware!



I don't think so Vox, I think the camera got exactly what was shown to us perfectly. See:

Pic 1, Pic 2, Pic 3, Pic 4.

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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
Posted on 6-Feb-2011 19:02:47
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@eXec

Exactly, all the boards everyone can buy, however better choices
then ASRock and VIA (even behind those brands you can have very
low quality boards if you take cheapest models). Nothing quarantees
much quality these days.

Wikipedia references are far better then most on the net,
and fairer. I bet CUSA product article, once in existance, will
be most unbiased on the net.
CUSA is mentioned under Commodore branches, part about AROS needs update, but that is also CUSA PR Fault (news still mentioned it, and only CUSA source to undo it is FAQ). Also Commodo is still antivirus, but that is from previous website itteration.
So, this was all OK before the new Queen website.

"Commodore USA
A new Commodore company is developing the Commodore Phoenix, a C64-like keyboard-computer system with touchpad. Unlike Commodore Asia's computers and netbooks which have Microsoft Windows as standard, the original operating system included with Phoenix is Ubuntu with Amiga OS3 provided by emulation. Microsoft Windows can also be installed, since it uses supported processor options. Other operating systems are AROS and Comodo.
Similar to the Phoenix, it is also developing two new keyboard-computers called the Commodore Amigo and Commodore Invictus, which are lower specification machines. The Commodore Invictus features a touch screen display and wireless HDMI and is similar in appearance to the ASUS eee keyboard PC. The Commodore Amigo is a low cost computer that runs entirely from an SD Card."

P.S.
I do contribute Wiki in English, and have contributed Serbian one with 2 000 articles by scientific donation (only for Bosnian / Serbian / Croatian readers)

http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%A0%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0

http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%BC/%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B3_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B0#

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@vox

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Imagine, CUSA just demonstrated empty case with no hadrware!



I don't think so Vox, I think the camera got exactly what was shown to us perfectly. See:
4[/url].


Wow, that deserves CAKE and YOU TUBE VIDEO (with no comments and rates, for sure!). However, I am not a registered Amiga.org user, please make em public!


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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
Posted on 6-Feb-2011 19:14:29
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Quote:

WolfToTheMoon wrote:

So, wait a minute... Amiga Inc and Barry would team up, license Commodore brand, get a web site going, pay for OS development, pay for commercials, pay for C64x development and what not... just to trouble Hyperion? Wow... you should really be writing sci-fi novels with that kind of imagination


No, they would do that just to make something out of making nothing for profit.
Much better motivation driver Before the Amiga name aquisition CUSA had just idea of C64 case computer (which will be Atom, nettop Linux category) and Phoenix/Inviticus that I suppose did not do best on PC market, but made some solid foundation. When they needed mid / high end computer, someone screamed why not (ab)using Amiga too, even it exists nowadays, Amiga Inc is silent for years and dead broken ... That is the whole Commodore Amiga tradition in holds.
EXEC alone and Wolf To The Moon have more tradition as Croatian Amiga users
just donșt have money to buy Commodore and Amiga name and I suppose would be nore professional in bussines.

So even months after glorifying announcements:

Prices and specs unknown
Realise date unknown
Separate A1200 case promised not in development (as far as public knows)
Modded Linux OS components unknown

Even Wiki article needs to change to future tens ... WILL produce
and MIGHT produced or HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED

And makes constant fan of X1000 where all this except release deate is known
and many details are present as pics, videos, presentations.

Off topic,
Happy Bob Marleys day to all fans worldwide!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505vVlRyEz8

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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
Posted on 6-Feb-2011 20:08:58
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@vox

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Wow, that deserves CAKE and YOU TUBE VIDEO (with no comments and rates, for sure!). However, I am not a registered Amiga.org user, please make em public!


Asrock is according to the last statistics, the third manufacturer in the world..
But, it makes no difference for you...

However, I expected more from you in your reply....
Obviously not enough Wikipedia materials for a decent reply..
To bad...

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Posted on 6-Feb-2011 20:13:00
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@all

Current poll,
Let them be all the time .... CUSA has Amiga name, I like it and other reasons 20 % (90)
It should be discussed after the product is realised 10 % (45)
It shouldn`t be promoted at all at AW.net 41 % (178)

20% of votes are tolerant towards CUSA
10% thinks they are OK but after they come NOT emptyhanded
41% believes they shouldnșt be allowed at real Amiga community board

Optionally,
27 % (118) believes
Every user that promotes it against other Amigas should get abuse points
(while this should be part of TOS, examples made by CUSA fanboys
were not punished in any instance)

We will see how many users will vote during the month, but its very likely
they will get the ban the way it goes now. Surprisingly on the first day,
those who like / tolerate CUSA voted first. Angry mob came later.

I dont know what moderators will say, is relative majority (e.g. same percentage as now) enough for this kind of decision, or absolute one (51%) is needed?


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Posted on 6-Feb-2011 20:17:18
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@vox

Asrock is according to the last statistics, the third manufacturer in the world..
But, it makes no difference for you...

However, I expected more from you in your reply....
Obviously not enough Wikipedia materials for a decent reply..
To bad...


Quantity doesnșt equal quality.
Microsoft is best example - most buggy and unoptimized OS of all times
with worst deadlocks, copy of other GUI OSs and unworthy of use before
Windows NT kernel, but thanks to clones, most sucessful.

ASRock used to be cheapest around, and my experience with them and VIA especially back in 90s was terrible. I must say VIA improved a lot after acquisions of Cyrix, S3 etc. other companies and improved, maybe same thing with ASROck. Once they loose my loyalty its hard to get purchaser back.

ASUS used to be big, but like Apple, lowered the quality and price to compete.

After all, poorest countries are majority. Something has to be used in Latin America, Central America, East Europe, Africa and Asia and that makes it big.

No doubt, Chinese gouverment OS is one of the major players in number, but that doesnt make him the best.

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@vox

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I dont know what moderators will say, is relative majority (e.g. same percentage as now) enough for this kind of decision, or absolute one (51%) is needed?


I'd say that this poll is quite useless. We've voted about C=USA once, and this poll changes nothing. Besides, AmigaWorld.Net isn't a democracy, it's owned by DaveyD.

These are my thoughts anyway, we haven't discussed it in staff, and I will not discuss it further here.

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Re: [Poll] Should CUSA posts and promotions be allowed at AW.net now and in the future?
Posted on 6-Feb-2011 20:20:48
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@zerohero

OK, as moderators / owners say.
Please let us know when the joint decision is made
(even if joint ways of deciding will help!

Good to know for any future polls!

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Later, the Commodore buy AmigaInc.
Then take the AmigaOS, etc......


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Posted on 6-Feb-2011 20:23:07
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@eXec

Quote:

eXec wrote:

However, I expected more from you in your reply....
Obviously not enough Wikipedia materials for a decent reply..
To bad...


Thanks for big expectations from me

Off course, its much irony as you would like to say I am
dumb user that just paste a lot of Wiki.

It helps me not to forget something important, nothing more.
Could go without it.

Strange ange I do have, not too consumeristic or amazed
by numbers and big propaganda

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Posted on 6-Feb-2011 20:28:53
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linnar wrote:
Later, the Commodore buy AmigaInc.
Then take the AmigaOS, etc......


While this would be the nice way, over the back of first millions of ex-Commodore and Amiga users in US and Europe first and with AmigaOS in the end, dont forget to add: In the end it rules the world, and Bill Gates congratulates that CommodoOS 16 is better then Windows 9 and decides to join, all thanks to abuse of Commodore and Amiga. Because every Commodore user and Amigan bought one of those and purchased one for the kid and wife, first in the states, but later worlwide.

Nice plan, but lets stick to promised products like
a) Commodore 64 finalized with Atoms inside to compete with nettops?
b) Commodore Amiga 1000-4000 to compete mid and high end PCs
c) A1200 and A500 cases seperately sold and with PC boards inside
d) Workbench 5 (way before AmigaOS 5), our ways to mod Linux finalized,
presented etc. including LEGAL C64/128 and Classic Amiga emulation
(KS 1.3 - CD32)

None have realise date and A) and C) were promised first
B and D invented as backup plan, from your announcements history

All this should go 2011/2, and world domination leave for 2020 with Commodore
Amiga 2020!

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I dont know what moderators will say, is relative majority (e.g. same percentage as now) enough for this kind of decision, or absolute one (51%) is needed?

This reminds me of a quote attributed to Thomas Jefferson:

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine."

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Near where I live there is a company that makes plastic moldings of...well...about anything you ask them. I auditioned for a position in their Cad/Cam department but got a better offer simultaneously so i had to refuse their hiring offer.
Needless to say, if I bring a micro itx board to them and ask for a case they will gladly make it.

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If they buy AmigaOS and make a new amiga based on the NG Quad or octal core QorlQ CPU I'll buy it

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If they buy AmigaOS and make a new amiga based on the NG Quad or octal core QorlQ CPU I'll buy it


For how much this time? 5000 $? Well, at least it would maybe have USB 2.0 as standard.

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@vox

Useless place for such pool. The results were predictable all the time.
But that`s what you aimed at... The same thing as to place a pool in
a public library if people like to read books...

pointless till the bottom...

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Later, the Commodore buy AmigaInc. Then take the AmigaOS, etc......



I hope so... and most likely that is 99.9% sure!

Can`t wait...

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For how much this time? 5000 $? Well, at least it would maybe have USB 2.0 as standard.


And supporting the XMOS naively by the OS4....

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