@Lou

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The Zetas are not to be trusted as benevolent. They are a collective and use us as long as we are useful...

It would be nice if there were benevolent Zetas saving us from upheavels (which is stated they won't, the 'benevolent' kind), but I think you are probably right. There are many rumours such as that they are really more like telepathic/wireless communicating bio-robots with a lack of individuality (can't keep secrets from each other) which outlived their creators. Creating hybrids maybe with more individuality and better prospects.

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@Nimrod

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@MikeB Quote: Last year we experienced *snow* here in the Netherlands during easter weekend, this year it will be baking hot up to 27 degrees Celsius. That's quite a turnaround. It will be the hottest easter weekend on record for northern european countries. MeteoVista forcasts there won't be any real rain the next couple of months. In parts of the country is declared code red for forest fires. We had weather like this in 1975 and 1976. I think you wandered into the wrong discussion. The global warming thread is next door

I already had my say for that thread:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=31052&forum=17&start=460&viewmode=flat&order=0#607887

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- Many nuclear power plants will be shut down, permanently, during the Earth changes leading into the pole shift. (Seems to be in progress, here in the Netherlands, in our 1 and only nuclear power station smoke was suddenly developing a few days ago, the people/government's support for nuclear power supply is dwindling over here and elsewhere)

Nuclear reactor in Ga. shuts down abruptly

"A nuclear reactor at Plant Vogtle in eastern Georgia has been taken out of service until authorities determine why it unexpectedly shut down.

The Atlanta-based Southern Co. reported Thursday that the Unit 1 reactor at Plant Vogtle automatically shut down Wednesday evening. Officials say the shutdown procedure, called a scram, was completed without incident."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g_bd0hn56ydLe4IY5Vypjop8Fkgg?docId=da0673237fc84cbb9c3f29be54f783b5

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@MikeB



You'd prefer that the automatic shutdown hadn't worked? Nuclear power stations are relatively safe, but the consequences of failure are so very much more severe than for conventional stations. For this reason they have very strict safety regulations and automatic shutdown sequences that stop problems before they're even a problem.

But if you choose to believe that a safety feature is evidence of the coming apocalypse, fine.

Oh, and on your global warming opinion:

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As for the true reasons for the above mentioned problems I have a theory that I am not yet ready to disclose, but IMO there is a worldwide cover-up taking place and blaming CO2 output for various of the changes is just an easy excuse to blindfold the public.

Let me guess: Aliens?

So anyway, seems that the body of climate science also needs to be disregarded to fit your pet theory as well. There's not going to be much science left in your idea by the time we're finished.

@MikeB

This year there has been 3 radiation leaks in the UK from nuclear plants.

Plan Vogtle #1 was built in 1987. These plants are built with 30 years of operation as the goal. Some last longer. Fukushima was first in production in 1971, they've been able to strech operations nearly 40 years. Before you run off declaring it to be LGM let's first review the likely causes.

@MikeB

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@Lou Quote: The Zetas are not to be trusted as benevolent. They are a collective and use us as long as we are useful... It would be nice if there were benevolent Zetas saving us from upheavels (which is stated they won't, the 'benevolent' kind), but I think you are probably right. There are many rumours such as that they are really more like telepathic/wireless communicating bio-robots with a lack of individuality (can't keep secrets from each other) which outlived their creators. Creating hybrids maybe with more individuality and better prospects.

Seriously: Unfortunately the truth is that Zetas long ago evolved (some might say devolved) into Dolphins. Hence the grey color, eyes and elongated head. The Yukonadius have long been masquarding as Zetas to conduct research and ensure they will retain control when the New World Order occurs in the New Era.

Humour: Why are aliens here?

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@BrianK

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Fukushima

It's a nuclear complex with 6 nuclear plants in one location. Plant 1 became commercially operational by 1971. Luckily units 4, 5 and 6 had been shut down prior to the earthquake for maintenance. The construction of plants 7 and 8 have been cancelled since the earthquake.

@T-J

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Let me guess: Aliens?

You forgot about the Geomagnetic reversal.
Or to put it another way.
Magnets. Really big magnets

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@BrianK

According to its wikipedia article, Vogtle 1 has been treated to some legislative life-extension, so it'll probably still be with us in the early 2040s...

Perhaps this failsafe being triggered will lead to a re-evaluation of that decision. Because despite the wild-eyed assertions of the LGM enthusiasts, the only pattern that we actually see in nuclear reactor failures is that (as with any complex machinery) reactors become less reliable as they age.

@T-J

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the only pattern that we actually see in nuclear reactor failures is that (as with any complex machinery) reactors become less reliable as they age.

It's not just complex stuff that starts to fall apart with age. You can take my word on this

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@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @T-J Quote: Let me guess: Aliens? You forgot about the Geomagnetic reversal. Or to put it another way. Magnets. Really big magnets

Magnets! They're miracle as science can't explain how they work.

@T-J

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According to its wikipedia article, Vogtle 1 has been treated to some legislative life-extension, so it'll probably still be with us in the early 2040s... Perhaps this failsafe being triggered will lead to a re-evaluation of that decision. Because despite the wild-eyed assertions of the LGM enthusiasts, the only pattern that we actually see in nuclear reactor failures is that (as with any complex machinery) reactors become less reliable as they age.

It's the inital planning that generally looks at 30 years, at least here in the USA. Undoubtly they can and will live longer than that. As seen here nuclear can't do that without repair, upgrade, and additional expense.

@Nimrod

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Magnets. Really big magnets

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?collection_id=14658&media_id=82280481

@MikeB

Yes, Saturn has a magnetic field. We already knew that. And yes, Enceladus interacts with that field.
So what?

@MikeB

There was supposedly a big alignment of Elenin on April 15th. It can't be coincidence that in under 8 days (length of time between Elenin and Chile) both the largest cloud, Amazon, and one of the large network, PSN, are inoperable. Such a magnetic field clearly had impact.

@T-J

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Yes, Saturn has a magnetic field. We already knew that. And yes, Enceladus interacts with that field. So what?

All our planets and stars do. Understanding the basics could allow you to understand the basics of repulsion for spherical complex magnets in outer space.

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@BrianK

Alignment with what, earth?
http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=1;log=0;cad=1#cad

As I stated the last alignment according to NASA's data was around March 11. The next algnment will be at the end of September at a much closer distance.

@MikeB

The magnetic field of the earth is so weak that a compass-needle has to be positioned at allmost no friction to yield any results (which will be wrong once you come near to any other magnetic field).

If magnetic repulsion would work on such a scale one could create a spacecraft consisting of 1 big magnet pointing it's nothpole firmly down and than start it from the earth magnetic northpole.

Nice base-material for a SF-story written in the early 20th century (maybe a lost Flash Gordon episode ;) ) but that where it ends.

Magnets only work reasonable strong on (close) contact, and natural magnetism in liquid stellar object (read all stars and planets with molten core) are limited by design. Big solid objects would retain the level of magnetism they had when the were liquid. Smaller objects might get magnetized beyond that, but their size rules out any reasonable strength.

And you still haven't explained how magnetic repulsion would fit into equation for any orbit:

a) gravitation is much stronger than thought (proove it)
b) the centrifugal force of these objects is much smaller (also need proof)

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@MikeB

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All our planets and stars do. Understanding the basics could allow you to understand the basics of repulsion for spherical complex magnets in outer space.

First off, can the arrogance.

Second, nice use of long words, but you'd be much more convincing if you yourself showed the slightest grasp of the most basic concepts of astronomy.

And you're wrong anyway - not all the planets have such magnetic fields. Only the ones that have enough mass and dynamo flow within their cores do. Mercury, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and of course, Earth, do. Venus, Mars and the assorted dwarf planets and smaller bodies do not. Ganymede does, but its entirely within Jupiter's much stronger field so there are interesting interactions between the two fields.

Oh, and by the way - comet Elenin does not display dynamo flow within its core and does not have a magnetosphere in the correct sense of the term. Just thought I'd point that out.