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kas1e 
Re: Any news on the gallium3d for OS4?
Posted on 4-May-2011 8:16:10
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@AmigaBlitter

Yes, i write to Ssolie and on his www-page, and in mail directly , and write him PM on amigans.net : and as result i have no answers at all. Not "no", not "yes". Just nothing. I ask that i can be good betatesters, i can found bugs good, i can give some help with SDK , i can give some ideas about how to design and do "prefs" normally and so on , but in end, i have no answer from him at all.

What make me think or my mail is not intersting for him at all , and he have no interest to just write an answer with explaining (that suck enough). I do not know what the problem to just write answer.

I can think of course that he not recieve any of those mails (no on his www page, not on mail directly, not PM on amigans), but well .. that pretty strange. Only about what i can think, is that my mail not interesting enough , and he dedicated just to not answer at all (what again, very sucky if you ask me).

I will try right now to write him PM on aw.net now.

@djrikky

Nah, dunno what Himon is it, i never say it, dunno from where it come to text really. Looks like Thomas (who give me questions) he a bit misunderstood the stuff when do final correctinos.

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Re: Any news on the gallium3d for OS4?
Posted on 4-May-2011 8:19:26
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@kas1e
I've also written an e-mail to him, saying that I can help in the development of the OS .... and I also get no answer at this time.

I think they simply wait some sort of "unofficial" dead line to check all e-mail they got.
And, choose who will help.

Be Quiet.

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Re: Any news on the gallium3d for OS4?
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Yeah, i think the same, but its all just suck anyway. If he make such posts, then why just not answer to all the writers "thanks, i get your mail, but for now its not high priority, i should check all the other ones firstly, and then will answer to you, thanks for patience"

But silecne, its just classic hyperion way. What the problems to write answers ? Ok, just 2 phrases , to say what happens.

Why for example Trevor, always found time to answer on _ANY_ kind of mails ?

PS. Anyone here alive who recieve answer from Steven ? Or anyone else who not recieve any answer at all ?

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@kas1e

Just wait. I think you can really be part of the OS developer team. Or you can just be part of the base software developer team. I think that the response to the ssolie call was unexpectedly high, so they have to sort out the many e-mail received.

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@kas1e

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But silecne, its just classic hyperion way. What the problems to write answers ? Ok, just 2 phrases , to say what happens. Why for example Trevor, always found time to answer on _ANY_ kind of mails ?

Different people have different free time.

As an example, I have tons of email but I have a few time at home so it's difficult even to send even a small answer. (I'm now at work)

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Re: Any news on the gallium3d for OS4?
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@elwood

I know , but Its a bit different in compare some mails just becase, and mails sended on the call "please send me mails today". Its expected that you will answer on all of them, or at last, write a message kind of "please wait, i recieve tons of other mails, will answer in second 10 days", and just re-copy that mail to every sender.

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@kas1e:
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But silecne, its just classic hyperion way. What the problems to write answers ? Ok, just 2 phrases , to say what happens.

No. I can confirm with experience that 90% of companies do not answer of not interested and, ofter wait a certain time before answering.
(it can be a psychologycal way of saying "you can help but, you are not essential")

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Why for example Trevor, always found time to answer on _ANY_ kind of mails ?

Not the same case.

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Mrodfr 
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@elwood

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As an example, I have tons of email but I have a few time at home so it's difficult even to send even a small answer. (I'm now at work)


Mean difficult for you for betatesting ?

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Re: Any news on the gallium3d for OS4?
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@kas1e

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Yes, i write to Ssolie and on his www-page, and in mail directly , ...........


I sent him a email a few months ago on a different subject. It took him
a few weeks to answer. It's no big deal. As for this present situation, it
might take even a little longer.
Ah....life.

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No. I can confirm with experience that 90% of companies do not answer of not interested and, ofter wait a certain time before answering.
(it can be a psychologycal way of saying "you can help but, you are not essential")


We all know current situation, and hyperion not in position to play in psychologycal games. Really, i cant believe that there was thousands of mails about. I think maximum 10-20, from which 2-3 are important enough , and others (like my and your) not so. And i still think that found 20 minuts to answer to everyone, its just good tone, just because if you call-for-support, then show your interest back as well (and found few minuts to do an small answer). Its just good tone , really, and not about free/not free time.

But anyway, not big deal for now, i and you have projects on which to work, so all of this can wait easy.

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@kas1e
I know you are an hyper-active guy (and we love you for that ) but consider that I don't receive many emails and once it took me 10 days to reply to a member here.
I also contacted a (third party software) developer once and without any "call to arms" in the middle it took 2 weeks for him to reply.
He said he was very busy and I believe him (considering my experience).

If you think on what I just wrote and extend everything to 30 emails (probably way more as there are the frigging moobunny time wasters that always write in just to to leak informations there) you get yourself very big delays guaranteed.

So, you guessed it, some more patience is needed :)

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@kas1e

I'm sure he will get back to you. He's also on IRC most nights.

But he's pretty busy at the moment I think.

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@all

Maybe we should consider sending mails to kas1e

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Is this regarding OpenAmiga? I ask because there were 2 news-items in the space of 2 minutes - one called "OpenAmiga", and one asking for developers to join the development effort.

Are they the same thing or different? I'd have asked but I was on holiday at the time. The messages seem wilfully vague to me.

Chris

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@all
Just recieved PM from Steven, looks like there was problems with his ISP

@clebin
It was about general help (not low-level Os-core coding), but i can contribute SDK (already have some stuf) and some pieces here and here.

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@kas1e

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kas1e wrote:
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Just recieved PM from Steven, looks like there was problems with his ISP


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It was about general help (not low-level Os-core coding), but i can contribute SDK (already have some stuf) and some pieces here and here.


I'm still confused about the difference between the two though. Do you know?

OpenAmiga suggests what you're talking about, but some of the projects listed will surely require access to OS 4 source-code. So the difference between the two schemes is very blurry to me. Are they different?

Also, I'm glad you're not going too deep into the OS but please be careful about what source you get access to, because it might affect your freedom to work on other Amiga-like OSes in future. I'm sure you know all that though!

Chris

 
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@clebin

No they are 2 different projects, OpenAmiga doens't require any internal access to the main OS4 source, for OpenAmiga all you need is the public OS4 components and an SDK

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The OpenAmiga web-site lists these in the list of potential projects:

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* Workbench :
- A lister mode
- Possibility to iconify windows
- Icons : add 32bits and PNG support to IconEdit
- Possibility to create link
- Multi-desktop handling (a la linux) ...... (snip)


Wouldn't these require access to some closed source-code?

Chris

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@clebin

No it's not necessary, but one thing you say it's true, for certain project (like the one you listed) an internal access it would have been better, for example developing and improving Filer

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