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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 21:38:24
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@eXec

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nimrod7 wrote
what about hardware emulation of the discontinued hardware?

eXec wrote:
Don`t get the point. Please expand your idea with few more words...

Then there is no hope for you...

And what about your claim to be neutral just a few posts ago? If you & dammy were half as smart as you claim to be, none of this crap posting would be the norm. You cusa fanboys rode in here on white horses claiming to save Amigaland, I think it's time you climbed back on your mules & ride back out.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 21:38:45
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@eXec

Natami mate! should also be banned, eh?

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No way...it`s classic... Great thing to go and keep on life!

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 21:40:41
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@vox

...and I won't buy anything from CUSA anyway, on the contrary i have overpriced & underpowered Sam on my shopping list

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 21:40:49
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@vox

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Well, Hyperion at least did the honest job. OS is not just ported, but well improved and can only get better,


Honest job but regrettably, false and for desktop computing dead platform.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 21:47:18
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Thnx... see ya on the x86 Commodore Amiga, the best commercial personal computerthat will be available !



Thanks for cheering me up.

That has to be the funniest thing I have read in years.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 21:50:31
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@eXec

Well it was supposed to be backed by IBM, Microsoft and Apple yes ...
But they did it. Not only as proof of concept. CUSA could buy
Rosetta stone and advance towards AmigaOS 5.0 if was just a bit more
Amigesque. Just as one example. And I have made a fair share of proposals how to link up to Community before being really bored and angry of propaganda and faking past and present just for commercial cause.

For example it could be CommodoreUSA Amiga 2011 and everyone would be happy. We would know is like Amiga tablet, buit its all in one home computer. It could come with AROS and Amiga Forever 2011. Many better and smarter ways to do things. And to threat people that expose different angle! That is ####ocracy. Sell it pon US no problem.

If there is one good thing about present Amiga situation its that both soft and hard part are done by decent boys even they are slow. And in US language they get the job done.

Not just promises
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyDjQg4H61c

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 22:23:46
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@eXec

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Honest job but regrettably, false and for desktop computing dead platform.


We are talking about Amiga, computer that died more than 10 years ago, not only on desktop.


I hope you will enjoy your new "Amiga" from CommodoreUSA. However, many of us want much more than generic PC with Linux. Maybe some future revision of "CommodoreOS" will add needed features for true Amiga experience, but that is task for years, not weeks. Promoting such PC here is thus pointless, we simply aren´t the right customers for CommodoreUSA, not now.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 22:29:35
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@pavlor


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I hope you will enjoy your new "Amiga" from CommodoreUSA. However, many of us want much more than generic PC with Linux.


Actually... they are working on integrating some new custom hardware and new technology with their machines. Some of it possibly cutting edge and very geeky

I don't know C=OS details, though... I hope with the release of v1.0 we will get some sort of a roadmap and their vision as to where they wanna go in the future and how they intend to do it.

Last edited by WolfToTheMoon on 06-May-2011 at 10:29 PM.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
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@WolfToTheMoon

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Some of it possibly cutting edge and very geeky

what do you mean? is there any other cutting edge technology than x86 ?!

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 6-May-2011 22:49:53
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@nimrod7

It's not CPU related, but it is hardware.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 0:13:51
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@EVERYBODY

This thread starts to generate AR reports.

This far it has stayed within the Terms of Service here, but some posts are just barely within the border.

So clean it up a bit.

Speculations are ok.
Disagreements are ok, just remember to agree to disagree on points of views.

Flaming or insults are NOT ok.
Nor is it ok to belittle or badmouth efforts.



Kudos to people who at least does something and tries, even if it might fail in the end.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 0:24:58
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@eXec

I never mentioned X1000, but it might get released but as you said they probably won't sell many.

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eXec 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 8:44:17
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I never mentioned X1000, but it might get released but as you said they probably won't sell many.


Then, what use of reinvention of the wheel?
Why to design something that already exists , just in another form
or shape and pay for that some fat bill? X1000 will kill AEon. What have they expected?
To sell 20k pieces in one day? With such price, if they sell 100 pieces they can say
that their Xmass is already there. I wouldnt say nothing if there on board was some
beast CPU in the range of the fastest xeon or even cell. But it has nothing to do
with the common sense what they did. Please, don`t get me wrong. If only my words
are false, but they are not. X1000 will fail in profit accumulation. It was better if they
invested each cent into decent up to date AOS4 port. Hardware design is pure
money throwing.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 8:54:38
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@eXec

Then Xmass is here, havent they sold over 100 to the betatesters...

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Posted on 7-May-2011 8:59:16
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@pavlor

Quote:

pavlor wrote:
@eXec

Quote:
Honest job but regrettably, false and for desktop computing dead platform.


We are talking about Amiga, computer that died more than 10 years ago, not only on desktop.


I hope you will enjoy your new "Amiga" from CommodoreUSA. However, many of us want much more than generic PC with Linux. Maybe some future revision of "CommodoreOS" will add needed features for true Amiga experience, but that is task for years, not weeks. Promoting such PC here is thus pointless, we simply aren´t the right customers for CommodoreUSA, not now.


You are getting me a bit wrong. I am not working for C= or promoting them with
some benefits. I just see them as a light on the end of the long and dark tunnel that
has swallowed Amiga for years. To gather Amiga and Commodore name and logo
on the very same way as it once was is a major success today. To be honest, I
never believed that it will happen again. There is certain amount of people here saying
that it is easy to buy company name and pretend to be it. But, if Hyperion managed
to buy C= name and all Amiga licenses I am sure that they would do exact the same
thing. It is the one and only correct way of doing business and generating the profit
which ignites new designs and new products. Without good PR, there is no cash.
PR and the brand visions are the main things that AEon and Hyperion will regrettably
never have and it`s the main reason why will they fail to move from dead point they
are stuck now. On the other side C= did what all of them fail to do for the last 17 years.
They successfully revived the brand, they have the clear and straight vision, they
even did one of the most clever free marketing tricks (Disney/Tron DVD and web)
which launched the news all over the planet. In short, that is called a good planned PR.
Such way of thinking and planning can only bring good things as long as it stays on
that route. If Hyperion was clever, a certain piece of cake would already been in
on their plate. But hey. You know the track from Queen..
"I want it all, I want it all, I want it all and I want it now!" - such way of thinking
will kill them and AEon very soon.... As soon as the X1000 comes out and after
they realize that sales are under 100 pieces.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 9:00:14
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@eder

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eder wrote:
@eXec

Then Xmass is here, havent they sold over 100 to the betatesters...


You really believe it? I don`t. Old tricks.

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pavlor 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 9:39:11
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@eXec

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I am not working for C= or promoting them with


That was never in my mind.

Quote:
I am sure that they would do exact the same


Sure, marketing strategy of CommodoreUSA has much (muuuuch ) greater chance of success than the one of Hyperion. However, I see nothing in the proposed product line of CommodoreUSA that would satisfy my desires. Why do you think people buy SAM? Because it can give them experience they can´t have with regular PC - eg. "Amiga" from CommodoreUSA. As I wrote, don´t search reason in it.

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such way of thinking
will kill them and AEon very soon.... As soon as the X1000 comes out and after
they realize that sales are under 100 pieces.


I hope they will sell X1000 long enough that I can buy one of these nice machines.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 9:52:09
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@To Cusa people:

You see, we already have Windows machines at home (finished Dead Space 2 a while back), what could Cusa offer that we don't already have three trillion times better and more powerful already?

So "what Hyperion can offer instead" you ask? Years ago among different computer platforms I/we chose Amiga, I had my A2000 expanded with CPU card and RTG, and were learning my profession on it. I would've never switched if new machines (and OS timely updates) came out.
I'm here to see (and support the effort) if they can pick the last pieces and create something I can use as my everyday computer, which happens to be the next step in what I left behind and I'm not willing to waste my time with anything else as I lready have a powerful modern computer

So something for you to understand once and for all (I'll call it point A for future reference):

A) AmigaOS and future AmigaOS computers have a reason to be, they are the direct continuation of the last step taken by the platform we know and love, and we care to see whether or not they manage to bring it back to viability (not mainstream). Cusa on the other hand it's not the continuation of anything and sadly, it doesn't offer us what Bill Gates does. If you are not the continuation of AmigaOS, you must be better than Gates to grab attention otherwise you are pointless.

Cusa needs more than advertise with Tron in order to look better than Bill Gates to everybody's eyes here. And needs the Amiga Operating System to be Amiga.

Now for point B:

B)"AmigaOS it's behind and I don't want it!" Let me give you an advice then: go to your local super-market and buy an HP PC for cheap. Feel free to place and Amiga sticker from Amiga Inc. on it and install AmigaOS4.0 theme available for WindowsBlinds. Finally you have an Amigaish desktop that belongs to a platform that sells billions of machines, it' powerful fully featured and costs peanuts. Yeah it's not Amiga but who cares...).

Point C)

"But I want Amiga!" Then check out what Hyperion brings out in terms of next OS updates and new computers.

And that's basically all there is to it folks.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 10:00:50
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Blimey Daxy!

Nice summary...

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 7-May-2011 10:30:58
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@eXec

I can't understandig what are you doing in a site calling "AMIGA", better go to a PC forum.

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