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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 16:26:13
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@damocles

To be honest, I think it would have been unwise for Barry to pay any money at all for an Amigan OS (any one of the three) to be ported to his hardware. Wrong audience.

So, I suspect the resource burden would have fallen squarely on Hyperion if they wanted to play. But I might be wrong.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 16:51:38
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@jas_mc

I'm preferring to what has been said in public in the past plus a guess or two on my part.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 16:57:55
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@damocles

Quote:

damocles wrote:
@Mechanic

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I believe Barry put the kabosh on some Amiga 'concept' related to the X500. No?


I was asked my opinion and I gave it on X500 case. C=USA hasn't found exactly what they are looking for their A500x case. .......

Quote:
If so, then Barry should protect IP, and Hyperion should not. Yes?


I have no idea on what you are referring to. Hyperion has to defend AI's IP, end of story.



X500 not A500x. Go look at the front page.

'Hyperion has to defend AI's IP, end of story.'

Well then..... no AROS on cusa computers must be Ainc's doing. Cool.

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Mechanic 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 17:00:30
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@eXec

Quote:

eXec wrote:

Yes, but that goes for period till year 2005. From year 2005 Amiga should be dropping
PPC and slowly going onto x86, you forgot to mention that.


Ainc. controlled AmigaOS until sept.2009. Why did they not do anything about that?

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eXec 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 17:06:29
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@Mechanic

Quote:

Mechanic wrote:
@eXec

Quote:

eXec wrote:

Yes, but that goes for period till year 2005. From year 2005 Amiga should be dropping
PPC and slowly going onto x86, you forgot to mention that.


Ainc. controlled AmigaOS until sept.2009. Why did they not do anything about that?


I am not defending AInc, contrary, they are the major to be blamed for this whole agony.
But it does not reduce the Hyperions part of fault for hot having a vision and PR at all.


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pavlor 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 18:23:54
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@damocles

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Exactly what 3.1 source code was used in what OS4 code? We know the OS4 kernel had zero Amiga OS source code in it. Right?


Maybe this video will answer some of your questions...
AmigaOS Twenty-Five

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redrumloa 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 19:37:03
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@tomazkid

Quote:

Remember Peg 2 discussions from years ago?
People wanted to ban discussions about Peg 2 as it was a competitor to AmigaOne.
Then, OS4 was made for it, and suddenly no one wanted to ban discussions about Peg 2 anymore.



Great example, spot on.

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vox 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 19:56:56
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@damocles

Quote:

damocles wrote:
@sundown


This thread started out as a troll against C=USA but it backfired.



But the beginning of this voyahe is that CUSA was born as a Troll
in United States of Commercial Trolling, and started to troll us until
the death of trolls or purchase of the trolling machine ....

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 19:57:46
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@damocles

Quote:

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@elwood

Quote:
"We are C=USA and would like to work with you. You give us 1M$ and then we talk. Ok?"


It was probably worse then that, they probably going to offer Ben a chunk of money to do the port, but with a time limit.


It could get worse. CUSA could have time limit and something to work about
for a difference.

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linnar 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 19:58:27
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@eXec
Quote:


It`s almost always like that. THe point is that he has some fetish on spiting and pointing
out how CUSA is lame, no use , worhless , spammers, vaporware...etc...etc..

Yes I know, and it affects mostly to himself and to the end, no one believes in something that comes from there. However, I have a hunch that it amuses him.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
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@eXec

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I am not defending AInc, contrary, they are the major to be blamed for this whole agony.
But it does not reduce the Hyperions part of fault for hot having a vision and PR at all.


No vision? No PR?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTlozTEsbVM&feature=channel_video_title

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 20:02:07
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@eXec

Quote:

eXec wrote:
@linnar

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We are more than one viewing over the hill, but most are looking at the hill! For every day that passes, more and more to come with the gang who are watching over the hill.


Perhaps the community is frustrated with all vaporwares and promises through
the last 17 years. Perhaps this massive panic attacks are growing out of that
disappointment soil. Who knows. The fact is that C= is here. C= is back and it will
play the greatest role since the old C= died in the history of Amiga line computers.
Whether some like it or not , those new C= Amigas will bring new people, new cash
into development process and it will directly affect on Hyperion and their business
strategy, unless they crash and burn because of this whole PPC fairy tale.



Exactly!

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eXec 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 20:05:06
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@vox


you are repeating yourself. you posted this not so long time ago.

Quote:

vox wrote:
@eXec

Quote:


I am not defending AInc, contrary, they are the major to be blamed for this whole agony.
But it does not reduce the Hyperions part of fault for hot having a vision and PR at all.



No vision? No PR?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTlozTEsbVM&feature=channel_video_title


( fixed broken quote /tomazkid )

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pavlor 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 20:07:11
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@vox

Quote:
But the beginning of this voyahe is that CUSA was born as a Troll
in United States of Commercial Trolling, and started to troll us until
the death of trolls or purchase of the trolling machine ....


Maybe damocles and co. are trolling here, but they aren´t sole masters of the subtle art of trolling.

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vox 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 21:47:28
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@pavlor
Yes, beat them with their own PR style, plus some truth and much sense of humor ...

Don`t worry as soon as they troll off, for sure I&I will quit. Or at least present some real Amiga history and stop abusing Amiga beyond paid licence which is:
a) not for Commodore Amiga 1000,1200,2000,3000, 4000 computers
b) not for desktop computer
c) not for OS emulation

Let em be in nice case unsold to others, just with Linux and see how they do
in global economy today (not to mention overpriced unexpandable board)

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 21:55:52
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@vox

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Don`t worry as soon as they troll off, for sure I&I will quit. Or at least present some real Amiga history and stop abusing Amiga beyond paid licence which is: a) not for Commodore Amiga 1000,1200,2000,3000, 4000 computers b) not for desktop computer


they have the license for desktop computers. Only AIO keyboard computers are exclusive. This has been explained at least 15 times by now to you and you're still trolling the same old thing.

Quote:
c) not for OS emulation


They are not breaching any settlement parameters as long as they're not booting into a workbench like GUI. They can emulate whatever they'd like. This has also been explained to you at least 15 times and again... you just don't want to listen.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 22:06:16
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@eXec

Quote:

eXec wrote:
@Mechanic

But it does not reduce the Hyperions part of fault for hot having a vision and PR at all.


Quote:

This has been explained at least 15 times by now to you and you're still trolling the same old thing.


Quote:

This has also been explained to you at least 15 times and again... you just don't want to listen.


Just could not resist.

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eXec 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 22:26:50
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@vox

Quote:

vox wrote:
@pavlor
Yes, beat them with their own PR style, plus some truth and much sense of humor ...

Don`t worry as soon as they troll off, for sure I&I will quit. Or at least present some real Amiga history and stop abusing Amiga beyond paid licence which is:
a) not for Commodore Amiga 1000,1200,2000,3000, 4000 computers
b) not for desktop computer
c) not for OS emulation

Let em be in nice case unsold to others, just with Linux and see how they do
in global economy today (not to mention overpriced unexpandable board)



their PR has in a short period shown more result than anyone who was involved
with Amiga line of computers in the last 17 years. firstly, the whole world is talking about
C= resurrection. How many portals, magazines, tv shows said anything about
Hyperion or AEon. Be real, look through all current facts and stop spreading this
politics of hate towards C= based upon your person feelings.
You are not the last Amiga samurai saving the community with your wisdom
and countless repeating how "lame" they are. C64 is already pre sold in more peaces
than all sam`s and X1000`s ever. And that is just the beginning.

Imagine what happens when Amiga line comes out!


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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 22:31:54
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@WolfToTheMoon

Quote:

WolfToTheMoon wrote:
@vox

[quote]
they have the license for desktop computers. Only AIO keyboard computers are exclusive. This has been explained at least 15 times by now to you and you're still trolling the same old thing.


He`ll never stop. On the end, he will buy the new C= Amiga, change his nick and start
writing how magnificent product it is. Such guys are changing as the wind changes
it`s course.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 8-May-2011 22:51:41
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@eXec

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Imagine what happens when Amiga line comes out!


Even more inflamed threads like this one?

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