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tommywright 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 10-May-2011 22:23:55
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linnar 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 4:09:01
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Quote:

eliyahu wrote:

/../ there will probably be more 'newbies' like me just from wikipedia searches after CUSA announces their amiga-branded PCs than any promotion done outside the existing community for many years, so this doesn't have to be all negative.

-- eliyahu

Exactly this I have said many times and I think it is!
Retro Amiga Community will be obliged New Commodore friendship and collaboration.
Hyperion can start by porting OS4.x to x86, and let the Commodore pre-install it to the Commodore Amiga.

I know it is not so ridiculous because of principles so instead preinstalled Commodore os. Who benefits from it and who loses?

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 4:45:41
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The problem with the Amiga community is not that great os that is signed by Bill McEwen and has named AmigaOS 4.x!
The problem is not its members, although some of them are a bit too much frustration.
The problem for the Amiga community is Hyperion!
Hyperion choice control over the community and they have chosen a narrow path that points directly towards the precipice. Unfortunately, despite strong Hyperion survival will and good job with OS4.x.

If the Amiga Community is to survive, a completely different path. The road name is x86 and the bus you can travel the path is called the Commodore Amiga.
But to get there is much to do, very much. One must porta OS4.x, you have to catch up with Linux or better yet, use the Linux kernel to get access to all hardware that Linux has.

Unfortunately, this will never happen. The successful os becomes Commodore os while OS4.x is the weight that pulls the Amiga Community down the precipice. When the number of members decreases, the market will be too small even for a hobby os as OS4.x. What remains is a small quarreling group that can not achieve anything. A tragic memory of a bygone era.

This is where the new Commodore will be in with the power to create happiness around the previous name "Amiga" and yet can compete resolutely against the other big players on the market.

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RobertDupuy 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 5:22:41
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It's wild to check back in from time to time, and now you have amiga.com - selling Android tablets.

Anyone can import a dropad A8 - I'm not trying to give those hosers any credit.

BUT! the market has moved on - it's not desktops, its not laptops, it certainly was never set top boxes - it's moved on from smartphones - and its now tablets.

If one wanted to recreate the amiga platform, start with a tablet and stick a badge on it. Amiga, Inc. somehow accidentally fell into the first step.

Then add a skin to it - improve on the open source android - with amiga like skinning - but updated for the tablet world.

And if you are so lucky - maybe someday you have a unique, compelling platform, who knows.

But who cares about Hyperion, Amiga, Inc. or CommodoreUSA - not a single one of them can do anything.

The great thing about the Amiga, in its heyday - it was relevant.

To capture that again - one has to understand what is relevant. x86 isn't even the future - although I think x86 is great - but ARM, tablets....c'mon this isn't hard.

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Wildstar128 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 5:55:55
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@RobertDupuy

well... yes and no. Portable hardware is fine and all. That may and probably is on the road map. But lets think to a higher level of computing intelligence. The next revolution in hardware like Amiga was in 1985 will be something very revolutionary as much as digital computing was to mechanical computing.

Following a placing a progressively growing research in the next revolution of computing and becoming one of the first players to introduce it to the masses not the classes would be as much a recipe as C64 was.

This next revolution, I'll simply let you think about what that maybe,

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Dandy 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 7:58:30
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@RobertDupuy

Quote:

RobertDupuy wrote:

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If one wanted to recreate the amiga platform, start with a tablet and stick a badge on it.
...



Should the development of the Amiga platform take this route I will definitely give up computing as my hobby and focus on refurbishing and riding old steam locomotives.

Quote:

RobertDupuy wrote:

But who cares about Hyperion,



Those who are interested in continued development of the AmigaOS.

Quote:

RobertDupuy wrote:

[But who cares about] Amiga, Inc. or CommodoreUSA - not a single one of them can do anything.



I agree entirely...

Quote:

RobertDupuy

The great thing about the Amiga, in its heyday - it was relevant.



Relevant to whom?
To me it still is relevant...

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RobertDupuy

To capture that again - one has to understand what is relevant.
...
tablets....c'mon this isn't hard.



...in contrary to those "tablets"...

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 8:17:30
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I have against that because they are not up to dateand are leading it in totaly wrong course


That is only YOUR opinion. Thankfully, I doubt you are that important that your opinion has any real value to the rest of the world.

We already all know what you think so no need to repeat yourself all the time. Give it a rest for a while with your crusade.

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eXec 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 9:40:52
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BillE wrote:
That is only YOUR opinion. Thankfully, I doubt you are that important that your opinion has any real value to the rest of the world..


Nothing more or less of real value than yours. The same goes to you.

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Cool_amigaN 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 9:47:00
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@damocles

It's not only that not a single pre-order hasn't been confirmed here on aw.net, the same goes for a.org, eab, all of the major German, Polish and Greek fora. Interesting, to say at least ;)

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vox 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 10:29:48
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Compare
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/
to
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_OS.aspx
or maybe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodores

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djrikki 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 10:46:18
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@linnar

Okay, now - open your eyes... your back in the room.

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linnar 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 10:56:32
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djrikki wrote:
@linnar

Okay, now - open your eyes... your back in the room.

The eyes are wide open!

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linnar 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 10:58:34
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vox wrote:
Compare
http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/
to
http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_OS.aspx
or maybe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodores


What shall we compare?

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 11:10:56
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@Dandy
Must quote all your replies for they are extremely reasonable and absolutely true.

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damocles 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 11:31:20
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It's not only that not a single pre-order hasn't been confirmed here on aw.net, the same goes for a.org, eab, all of the major German, Polish and Greek fora. Interesting, to say at least ;)


I know there are some European (and Oz) sales, but the primary marketing focus is on the USA for the C64x launch. Am I not surprised to read nothing on AWN? If I was a normal C= fan and had pre-ordered a C64x, I sure wouldn't say a thing on AWN in fear of being ridiculed and tormented.



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eXec 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 13:14:34
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Quote: RobertDupuy wrote: But who cares about Hyperion, Those who are interested in continued development of the AmigaOS.


Do you really think that Hyperion can prevent Amiga OS from slow
and painful death in the upcoming 10 years?

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vox 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 13:39:02
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eXec wrote:
@Dandy

Quote:
Quote: RobertDupuy wrote: But who cares about Hyperion, Those who are interested in continued development of the AmigaOS.


Do you really think that Hyperion can prevent Amiga OS from slow
and painful death in the upcoming 10 years?



Do you really think that Hyperion can prevent you from slow
and painful death in the upcoming 50 years?

AmigaOS is well and updated, thank you for asking

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 14:06:05
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AmigaOS is well and updated, thank you for asking


don't you mean "on life support and fighting to live?"

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Paul 
Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 14:20:15
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If I was a normal C= fan and had pre-ordered a C64x, I sure wouldn't say a thing on AWN in fear of being ridiculed and tormented.


Yes, with all the fine examples over the last ten years of how OS4 users have been "ridiculed and tormented," there has been plenty of instruction on how to do this sort of thing.

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Re: The new Commodore from USA is no more now soon?
Posted on 11-May-2011 15:10:29
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Yes, with all the fine examples over the last ten years of how OS4 users have been "ridiculed and tormented," there has been plenty of instruction on how to do this sort of thing.


On AWN? I don't think so.

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