@Lou

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Let me be perfectly clear: I don't attend the 'school for nimrods' hence I am not obliged to anwer any math question of yours.

"Let me be perfectly clear: I don't attend the 'school for nimrods' hence I am not able to anwer any math question of yours." Corrected it for you.

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The facts are I have shown your mistakes.

When and where? You keep making this claim, but never show any evidence. All you need to do is give the post number, if it exists.

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The facts are - as both a theorist and experimentalist, John Brandenburg has more credentials than YOU.

This, like every other statement that you have made, is what is called an [i]assertion[/b]. There is currently no evidence either way. My level of credentials lie somewhere between "learned how to count", and Lucasian Professor of Mathematics, One of whom as a theoretical physics and cosmology specialist supports Higgs, and suggested that he deserves the Nobel Prize. Scientific validity is not a matter of scoring points with bits of paper with an alphabet soup of letters after your name, like some esoteric game of top trumps. It is about finding a way to accurately describe how the universe works. Brandenburgs "GEM theory" has no more validity than his "Palaeo-nuclear disaster on Mars" story which is pure Arnold J. Rimmer and his Quagaar warriors.

Credentials mean nothing, evidence is king.

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@Niolator

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Niolator wrote: I have been following this thread on and off and it has really been on the fringes of accepted science and physics lately. Especially Lou seems to love alternate theories which can be upliftning sometimes. It is always intressenteng to find new ways to explain scientific phenomenons. That does not mean I agree with Lou all the time. By the way Lou, your definition of noob is a well educated person with expert knowledge, right? That is the impression I have of the people you call noobs in this thread,

When someone replaces mathematical functions with incorrect dumbed down ones, he is a noob. When someone doesn't understand the difference between reletavistic mass and rest mass, he is a noob. When someone doesn't understand the use of photons and wants to dumb it down to "light intensity", he is a noob.

Then when someone else simply defaults to the previous noob's rebutal using the stupid math, he is also a noob.

@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @Lou [quote]Credentials mean nothing, evidence is king.

Apparently you lack both.

@Niolator
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When someone replaces mathematical functions with incorrect dumbed down ones, he is a noob. When someone doesn't understand the difference between reletavistic mass and rest mass, he is a noob. When someone doesn't understand the use of photons and wants to dumb it down to "light intensity", he is a noob.

And when somebody posts an equation for magnetic levitation as an orbital calculation for a largely non magnetic lump of rock he is illiterate. When he thinks that I am going to calculate a 50MJ/kG figure accurate to 0.047J/kG to account for realistic relativistic speeds for his entertainment, he overrates his own importance, and when somebody thinks that there are more photons at higher energy levels coming from the IGM than there are between two white dwarf stars orbiting each other at a distance 1/3 that of the Earth- Moon, that individual is delusional.
That particularly delusional individual readily swallows any and every idiotic scam without even a nanosecond of investigation, and throws his toys out of the pram when I, and others, do not blindly agree with him.
He even thinks that the Aztecs built stuff in Palestine (The Gaza strip, to be precise), and that he has seen evidence of real giants.
The more often his delusions are shown up for what they are, the more stubbornly he defends the indefensible position he finds himself in.

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@Nimrod

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Lou wrote: Quote: When someone replaces mathematical functions with incorrect dumbed down ones, he is a noob. And when somebody posts an equation for magnetic levitation as an orbital calculation for a largely non magnetic lump of rock he is illiterate. When he thinks that I am going to calculate a 50MJ/kG figure accurate to 0.047J/kG to account for

Just to recap. Because Nimrod is off by a factor of .1 in his calculation we must accept the person that's off by a factor of 10,000 as true. Egads!

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@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @Niolator Quote: When someone replaces mathematical functions with incorrect dumbed down ones, he is a noob. When someone doesn't understand the difference between reletavistic mass and rest mass, he is a noob. When someone doesn't understand the use of photons and wants to dumb it down to "light intensity", he is a noob. And when somebody posts an equation for magnetic levitation as an orbital calculation for a largely non magnetic lump of rock he is illiterate. When he thinks that I am going to calculate a 50MJ/kG figure accurate to 0.047J/kG to account for realistic relativistic speeds for his entertainment, he overrates his own importance, and when somebody thinks that there are more photons at higher energy levels coming from the IGM than there are between two white dwarf stars orbiting each other at a distance 1/3 that of the Earth- Moon, that individual is delusional. That particularly delusional individual readily swallows any and every idiotic scam without even a nanosecond of investigation, and throws his toys out of the pram when I, and others, do not blindly agree with him. He even thinks that the Aztecs built stuff in Palestine (The Gaza strip, to be precise), and that he has seen evidence of real giants. The more often his delusions are shown up for what they are, the more stubbornly he defends the indefensible position he finds himself in.

Your biggest mistake is that you assume you know everything and are correct when in reality you have to keep being corrected like the true noob that you are.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/moonmars/features/magnetotail_080416.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100414-moon-magnetosphere-solar-wind/

You are a complete idiot who simply recites archaic beliefs. Your 'evidence' is merely old assumptions when new facts have proven otherwise. Your lack of accpetance of these facts merely outlines your old age. You should have stayed retired. Your quote:
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largely non magnetic lump of rock

is the understatement of the century. And if I am illiterate, you must be yesterday's waste that I flushed down the toilet.

...then there is your lackey that merely takes your evident stupidity for facts...

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@Lou

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http://www.nasa.gov/topics/moonmars/features/magnetotail_080416.html http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100414-moon-magnetosphere-solar-wind/ You are a complete idiot who simply recites archaic beliefs.

Alas Lou no one said that EM doesn't exist. Nor did anyone say EM doesn't have effects. What we said is EXACTLY what is seen here. Dust floats due to the magnetic change in the material. It's more susepctical to change because the moon does not have a dipolar magnetic axis, like the earth. Thus, it doesn't generate it's own protective magnetosphere, like the earth. And thus the magnetic winds can more directly effect the surface. ... Though note the solar winds float dirt they don't move the moon. Which I don't think is a surprise to you. I recall we knocked your false moon claims out of the sky already. (Pun intended).

@Lou

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Your biggest mistake is that you assume you know everything and are correct when in reality you have to keep being corrected

I am not the one who keeps dredging up CRAP, failing to investigate its validity, and posting it as "proof" thet the universe is something other than it really is. I am one of those who point out that you are overlooking basic principles. No high level of expertise needed, just an understanding of basic mathematics. This is not to claim that higher levels do not exist, merely that as yet we have not required to venture into more complex

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You are a complete idiot who simply recites archaic beliefs

What? like linking to a post claiming the return of Aether physics. Even my schoolbooks had been purged of that ninteenth century concept, despite your frequent baseless assertions to the contrary.
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Your lack of accpetance of these facts merely outlines your old age. You should have stayed retired. Your quoteQuote: largely non magnetic lump of rock is the understatement of the century.

On the matter of age it was you who introduced age as giving validity to statements, I merely pointed out that it didn't and that I had children your age who I had taught the rudiments of civilised beviour to (I see no evidence in this thread of your father having bothered). Fact is, my first comment on this discussion was in response to your ignorant response to a link posted by Tomazkid. You are however correct in recognising the qualification "largely non magnetic" as an understatement, although as with your claims of million ton building blocks, and Fiero "worlds fastest electric car", grossly exaggerated to the point of inaccuracy. Had I rounded the magnetic field of the moon down by the tiniest amount and called it zero, you would have spent the entire weekend trying (and failing) to dream up imaginative insults because I was unaware that there is a residual, chaotic, presence of weak magnetic material.

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And if I am illiterate, you must be yesterday's waste that I flushed down the toilet.

Is that the best that you can do? I have heard far better, and replied with better, but you are not worth the effort.

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@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @Lou , but you are not worth the effort.

And you keep replying after I told you several times you are wasting your effort. When will you learn? ...just more proof that you don't...

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@Nimrod

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Lou wrote: And you keep replying after I told you several times you are wasting your effort. When will you learn? ...just more proof that you don't...

He's right. Clearly we've given Lou information. And he's proven that we can't make him think.

@BrianK

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BrianK wrote: @Nimrod Quote: Lou wrote: And you keep replying after I told you several times you are wasting your effort. When will you learn? ...just more proof that you don't... He's right. Clearly we've given Lou information. And he's proven that we can't make him think.

I've known that, almost from the start, but I have been mildly curious as to how much of a fool he will make of himself in his futile attempts to look as if he knows something that the rest of the world doesn't
Even my first comment on the subject of Nibiru was a response to Lou mixing up the Maya stepped pyramids with the great pyramid at Giza and spouting about Aztec pyramids on the Gaza strip, and I suspected at that point that he was not playing with a full deck. Now I suppose I am trying to work out, not so much if he has a full hand, but if he is even holding a card at all.

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@Nimrod

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Nimrod wrote: @BrianK Quote: BrianK wrote: @Nimrod [quote] Lou wrote: And you keep replying after I told you several times you are wasting your effort. When will you learn? ...just more proof that you don't...

And the lackey wrote"
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He's right. Clearly we've given Lou information. And he's proven that we can't make him think.

And you in further display of stupidity wrote:
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I've known that, almost from the start, but I have been mildly curious as to how much of a fool he will make of himself in his futile attempts to look as if he knows something that the rest of the world doesn't Even my first comment on the subject of Nibiru was a response to Lou mixing up the Maya stepped pyramids with the great pyramid at Giza and spouting about Aztec pyramids on the Gaza strip, and I suspected at that point that he was not playing with a full deck. Now I suppose I am trying to work out, not so much if he has a full hand, but if he is even holding a card at all.

And in that first response you look like a fool because there are step pyramids in Egypt.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-701-s&va=step+pyramids+of+egypt

You continue to assume your a genius, and your lackey keeps stroking that ego of yours but reality is that you are both apparent rocket scientists..

@Thread

I'm boring of the other thread I'm involved with. So am now looking at this one... Be warned all. I may start contributing at some point.

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@Lou

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As you can see, Brandenburg has worked on DARPA-funded projects.

That isn't necessarily a good thing for ones credibility...

"Pentagon Preps Soldier Telepathy Push"

Gosh darn, I posted something. Ignore me for now...

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One concept the two physics noobs are not familiar with is black holes...other than the ones in their heads ofcourse...

They challenge theories from people like Nassim Haramein because their view of reality is limited to highschool physics. Surely, they think, you can't have black holes within black holes...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100406172648.htm
The big bang was just a white hole.
http://www.universetoday.com/76909/white-holes/

Reality is they are wrong no matter how right they 'believe' they are. Like religious zealots, their beliefs are fixed and defended to the death.

Don't fall into their [mind-]trap, SpaceDruid.

@BrianK

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And he's proven that we can't make him think.

He has also proven that he can't read.

Either that or the idiot thinks that the Gaza strip is in Egypt.

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@Lou

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They challenge theories from people like Nassim Haramein because their view of reality is limited to highschool physics

BZZT! Science challenges ALL theories. That's the name of the game. Second Haramein is challenged because he has yet to provide evidence for his theories. If we're to use the notion that Scientific Theories are the most cohesive explaination for evidence and the guy can't provide the evidence he claims his 'Theory' explains then he clearly does not have a 'Theory'. It's a postulate, period.

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Surely, they think, you can't have black holes within black holes

AFAIK no one here commended on that topic. So your statement winds up being a fallcious strawman. Shoot down your own strawman it doesn't impart any value to what others are saying. Again because others didn't say anything.

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The big bang was just a white hole....No one has every observed one and no one probably ever will.

Again interesting conjecture. But, if it's unobservable then well let's just call it 'God' and be done with it. Afterall science is concerned with the observable. Fascinating takes of what happened before the Universe's Time Zero. We might never know.. Then we simply never know. Instead we have a big pile o' postulates of T-1 which remain a big o' postulte pile forever.

@Lou

Top tip, don't start your case by calling those that don't agree with you "noobs". It is a derogatory term that doesn't exactly give your argument the best opening.

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@Lou

This Dec the Dark Energy Camera begins gathering evidence which can be used for direction observation of Dark Energy.

It'll be interesting to see what it finds. The evidence, or lack thereof, will help us better understand the Universe.

@Lou

Interesting that you should mention white holes as I have pondered upon those for a while. The descriptions I have seen of them picture them as giant explosions causing the matter that comes out of them to conglomerate into a black hole eventually under the influence of gravity.

I want to think of them as inverted black holes with a negative gravity field making the matter scatter before it can conglomerate.

@All: Is there anything in physics that prevents a negative gravity field (IE antigravity).

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