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TiredofLife 
Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 16-Jun-2011 20:21:38
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I do visit A.org and it clearly isn't only OS4 fanboys who are hostile to CUSA.


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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 16-Jun-2011 21:16:13
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As Amiga.org's appointed Site Admin I can clearly say we love Amiga OS 4.x and discussion of it is welcome on Amiga.org. We have machines that run Amiga OS 4.x and are fans of the operating system. We also use and enjoy MorphOS, AROS, Amiga Forever and real Amiga's.

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 0:07:00
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as i visit both aorg and awnet and few other sites, i must admit (being primarly critical about os4 or cusa but also about others) that i dont understand the neccesity of a spiritual lead that many in this community expose, and carry to unneccessary extent.

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 0:31:13
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@wawa

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wawa wrote:
i dont understand the neccesity of a spiritual lead that many in this community expose


We know that.

This site is dedicated to confusing certain individuals and,,, you are one of them.

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danwood 
Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 11:08:18
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@jkirk

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the c64 is not meant for us so stop bitching about them every time their name pops up in a post.


Then who is it aimed at? And why it is continually being posted about here by people involved in its production/marketing?

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danwood 
Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 11:10:23
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@TiredofLife

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do visit A.org and it clearly isn't only OS4 fanboys who are hostile to CUSA.


Indeed, I hang out in the Commodore 8-bit communities too (Plus/4. C16. C64) and they are all very hostile and see this new "c64" as a bit of an insult really, most of those communities have no interest in OS 4 (or the Amiga in general) but there are pages of criticism of CUSA on Lemon 64, C16 World, Plus 4 World etc.

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 12:53:46
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@danwood

It's meant for people who like retro but don't want the hassle of actually dealing with retro. The term for it is "faux retro."

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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 13:11:16
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Brilliant!!! saved to My Pictures!

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 14:34:36
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Excellent, one of the funniest things I have seen in ages. Well at least the funniest today

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 14:42:48
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@persia

The only thing is.. everyone here has a different definition of what a "real Amiga" is. Be it 68k, early Commodore, late Commodore, Amiga Inc, AmigaOS, AmigaOne, Hyperion, Aros, MOS, Natami?

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 15:45:33
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i think the real problem is a lack of leadership. there is not a charismatic leader to lead the community to what the amiga is. case in point the little cartoon posted above using bill gates and steve jobs proclaiming the NEW amiga is not an amiga. well this is just as true as win 95 is win xp and win xp is win7. why did the market accept them? because mr gates said that they are windows products.

same goes for apple, mac os 7 is the same as mac os 9 and mac os x, also mac ppc is a mac just like mac x86 yet nobody claims they are not macs. why? because mr jobs says they are macs.

we do not have such a leader for the amiga. sure we have a few celebs but not an all encompassing leader. as such the market is fragmenting and will continue to fragment until the name amiga will mean nothing. actually i believe we are lmost at that point now.

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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 15:49:01
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@jkirk

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i think the real problem is a lack of leadership.


Agree.

Quote:
there is not a charismatic leader to lead the community to what the amiga is.


Disagree.

We've had too much charisma over the years from those proclaiming themselves as the next Amiga messiah. I'd rather have straight talk atm.

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 15:53:14
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We've had too much charisma over the years from those proclaiming themselves as the next Amiga messiah. I'd rather have straight talk atm


what i mean is one person that has the skills(charisma) to pull the community in one direction and follow through. not a self proclaimed messiah.

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 15:59:55
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what i mean is one person that has the skills(charisma) to pull the community in one direction and follow through. not a self proclaimed messiah.


You mean like a business plan that calls for inclusiveness of all amiga flavors and allows for people to see same as opportunity instead of threat?

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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 16:16:03
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After playing his fanboys on Amiga.org for chumps, Franko joins the Commodore USA Staff.



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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 16:23:31
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wow! Hans-Joerg Frieden joined C=USA

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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 16:32:14
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You mean like a business plan that calls for inclusiveness of all amiga flavors and allows for people to see same as opportunity instead of threat?


no i mean that since we had no leadership (single minded path attributed to the amiga brand) the other flavors were created thereby causing the fracture in the amiga brand. the best we can hope for now is a merging of the different paths or at the very least a sort of alignment that allows the universal use of apps on different amiga os implementations. otherwise we will end up with a constantly fracturing ecosystem with such small groups that there is no chance of corporate investment.

if we cannot get on the same page in some form or fashion we will remain in a death spiral.

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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 16:43:03
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@redrumloa

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After playing his fanboys on Amiga.org for chumps, Franko joins the Commodore USA Staff.


That is really odd...

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ddni 
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Posted on 17-Jun-2011 16:44:49
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@pavlor

best way to double traffic to a site is to advertise it to hell AND also have some idiot (Franko) slagging it off all year!

If Franko was only ever doing the Amiga.Org thing for a joke, then he probably had no allegiance to anyone.
Maybe when he started attacking CUSA it was genuine.
Then when he and Barry realised that the Franko anger was driving traffic they cooked up a little deal.
Once his year on A.org was up Franko would declare his allegiance to CUSA.
This would have the effect we are seeing now. People have gotten used to Franko on A.org and not following his lead as much.
This jump to CUSA has stirred it all up again - THE RESULT IS INCREASED TRAFFIC TO CUSA AND A HAPPY BARRY.

If I were a shady CTO about to launch a new product I would do something similar! It means that the two busiest places for potential customers were full of discussion on MY product and ALL linking to MY site!

The recent FAKED?? factory images scandal may have been deliberate to drive interest and traffic!

And WE ALL fell for it!!! aaarghhh!!!

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Re: More C64x Pics at Commodore USA Customination Facility in Ft. Lauderdale
Posted on 17-Jun-2011 16:58:45
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@persia

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t's meant for people who like retro but don't want the hassle of actually dealing with retro. The term for it is "faux retro."


Ah huuuge market then, no wonder they've sold 90 billion so far, or whatever the number was.

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