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Installed since 2 hours and i haven't had a single glitch yet... thanks again!
Among other things, i also like the new black boot screen...

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@wawa

i see you conviniently ignored the fact all MUI issues are to do with an incomplete/incorrect install of MUI, as stated on this very thread, just to suit your own interpretation.

I am entertained by all the people here and elsewhere with thier "RAWR!!!11 YOU SEE!!11 OS4 TEH SUXX!!!11" meaning they have never used any sort of computer in thier life before, and if they are involved in IT then they best get out asap.

oh wait, they know exactly what they are doing... forget it, nothing to see here...

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@Derfs

But even wiping out my MUI drawer totally, copying the one from the Os 4.1.2 iso and then updating the files from update 3 still results in the same for me.

@danwood

thats assuming all the MUI files you need are the ones just from update 2. there was an update 1 iso as base remember.

if your MUI files are old, then they have either not been copied in the first place, or written over by old versions somehow.

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danwood wrote: @Derfs But even wiping out my MUI drawer totally, copying the one from the Os 4.1.2 iso and then updating the files from update 3 still results in the same for me.

From a post on the AmigaOS 4.x support forum ([url=this thread):
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The new MUI is incompatible with some older settings and will cause crashes and other funny artifacts, like help bubbles looking wierd perhaps. If you have a problem with an app, delete its MUI settings. At the moment I thing it is the .config part, not the .prefs part in ENVARC:mui/ (and ENV:mui/ too unless you reboot). Then try again.

Try getting rid of your old MUI settings.

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@Derfs

I have TOTALLY 100% deleted my entire MUI drawer and everything contained within it, I then copied all the contents of MUI to a new drawer sys:mui from update 2, I then copied the files from update 3 into the drawer too, same result. There are no old files remaining, same result.

I'm now backing up my install to zap my system disk and do a fresh install :( Annoying as I'd nicely customised my look/feel.

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@Hans

Tried that twice, renaming Envarc:mui to mui_old, crashes remain.

@wawa

I guess that there will be an update 4 . On the good side though, it is faster and feels better. Regarding the black screen at startup I got it after reboot, something had changed regarding the screensettings and I got no picture from my DVI port but from the VGA port instead. So I switched cable, launched screemode in prefs, ticked the DDC box, saved, restarted and picture was back. Then changed the tooltypes in the monitor file to the settings that I use.

@danwood

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danwood wrote: @Hans Tried that twice, renaming Envarc:mui to mui_old, crashes remain.

Did you reset before trying again (I assume yes, but it's worth asking)? Could some apps be storing their prefs elsewhere? Very likely, I think.

EDIT: If you still cannot get it working, then it might be worth using Snoopy to try to track down what it's loading up. If you find anything unusual, post it to the official support forum.

Hans

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@Hans

Yeah I have rebooted several times, removed everything MUI related and restored from update 2/3 files only. I think there's some system library or handler causing some unknown incompatibility, or some app both I and Voodoo (who is experiencing identical crashes) have installed.

I've reached the end of my patience, I'm wiping out my entire system and starting a fresh install.

@danwood

First I suggest you do RAM test, you are one of few people experiences this amount of problems, from what I can read from the forum.

Some tips:

1. Download newest Snoopy from OS4Depot.net
2. Start Snoopy
3. Under output, select “show only Failing calls”
4. start the application you have problems whit.

A list of failures should be displayed in Snoopy.

If you get DSI error press “More” then “Write crash log”, and then “Kill program”,then post the crash log her.

(OS4Depot also has crash log page, you can post it there)

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@danwood

Do you have multiple boot partitions? Just curious...

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@danwood

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muimaster.library V20.2290

if its still happening, and on your crashlog it still has the abover version of muimaster.library, then you have not removed the old versions.

what version is on your current crashlog.

*edit*

noticed his last message, so may not get that crashlog as hes doing a reinstall

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hotrod wrote: I guess that there will be an update 4 . .

Beside some new bugs that surely will have to be cleaned,
RadeonHD driver is only thing really missing from the update. Lets hope it will
be released before the OS 4.2

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@vox

Way don't you sign up as beta tester for Hans.

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@vox

Yes I was thi.king about bugfixes. there where 5 updates released foor 4.0 right?. I'm getting the fealing that some issues won't evwr be resolved like the half VRAM issue. Seems like it is time to move on to new hardware and lets hoe that it has less issues than the A1.

@Hypex

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Actually I tested some MUI apps and OS4 nor the program authors are to blame but a broken MUI installation is. And by broken I mean 68k versions of MUI file were installed!

good to hear! but isint this what betatesters are soppoused to pick up? maybe u should be head beta tester :)

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@Derfs

We got to the bottom of it, a rogue installer appears to have installed an older version is sys:libs ! The system will use this over MUI: first.

@cheesegrate

I don't see how this is possible, the update installer should overwrite any old library or mui class, unless some one has write protected files or created some strange assigns that include some thing from else where, (I guess if 68k versions of files has higher version number they might not be replaced.)

I know there are some people whit paranoid custom setups.

SYS:MUI/MUI application should display version numbers for loaded MUI classes.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

It is possible, if an installer puts older versions in LIBS: the system will default there rather than sys:mui or MUI: always check LIBS: for mui files and delete them!