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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 19:52:24
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| Why do you people always ditch each other. be happy we have something that is getting updated on all camps, whatever its os/apps or hardware. |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 21:17:54
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"I know you would want MorphOS supporting ACubes sales but it is not going to happen."
I doubt Vox expects people to buy Sams to run MorphOS (which would equal "MorphOS supporting ACube's sales").
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That comment was meant to eliyahu, not Vox.
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More likely, he thinks that people who already own Sams to run AmigaOS 4 would be tempted to buy MorphOS if it were also compatible.
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If such person has interest to MorphOS then why not buy PowerBook? Run AmigaOS 4 on Samantha and MorphOS on PowerBook. If you had MorphOS on SAM460 you wouldnt get portable, would you?
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 21:44:40
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Any Amiga reseller must deal with those costs anyway (except refurbishing). |
Errr, how has that got anything to do with what I said? You say that like I made some kind of criticism, when what I actually said was a question (how much would a refurbed Mac from a commercially run shop actually cost?).
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 21:49:55
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Ah, I see.
But my point is, if it *did* run on Sams (say someone could wave a magic wand) then a lot of AmigaOS users wouldn't even need to buy a PowerBook. They could just get the OS and try it on the Sams they already had.
If they fell in love with it, then I'm sure they *would* hunt down a PowerBook so they could take it on the train too but being able to run something on your existing hardware is real incentive to try something.
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 22:30:26
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Ok I see it now My mistake.
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but being able to run something on your existing hardware is real incentive to try something.
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I can see where you are coming from but there arent enough Samantha users to justify "luring" them to MorphOS world with MorphOS.
Instead I let cheap PowerBooks lure Samantha users to world of MorphOS =PLast edited by itix on 20-Sep-2011 at 10:31 PM.
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 22:34:53
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You really think they perfectly timed a non-news event with the release of another non-news event?
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 20-Sep-2011 23:10:54
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Perhaps, I cant wait to see what 'they' come up with when the x1000 is officially released...
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 0:50:31
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| Great news:)
But without confirmed wlan support lets not use the word "portable" yet.
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 2:15:55
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I'm sure considering the Morphos teams reputation for delivery that when Morphos 3.0 comes out with Powerbook support wifi will be supported. Its waiting for these drivers to be finished that is taking so long as they have had morphos running on PB for some time now. longer than a year at least! As a matter of fact if you search mz you can see some devs and users discussing this and Pega1 (Cybergfx Frank) was pretty adamant about releasing a full featured port. (there is alot to support - new gfx drivers, touchpad support in full, wlan, etc)
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I can see where you are coming from but there arent enough Samantha users to justify "luring" them to MorphOS world with MorphOS. |
Itix Good point. It would make zero sense for Morphos team to spend any time porting the os to yet another platform. This is the mistake Hyperion have been making for the past few years, as it throttles OS development when you have to code new drivers for new platforms all the time.. (*and in the case of X1000 you see how long this takes, its not easy)
Besides, there are so many rabid anti morphos people in the Sam user base it really makes no sense. Although its quite interesting how still people bash Morphos even though some members of the dev team have helped OS4 efforts! (And dont see much the other way except maybe Davey Wentzler)
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 5:02:45
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Although one MorphOS developer has been seen with a working wireless NIC PCMCIA card in his G4 PowerBook, I doubt that including it in the 3.0 release of MorphOS is definite.
It was clearly stated earlier that having wireless Internet connectivity would NOT be a requirement for releasing a version of MorphOS that supports the G4 PowerBook.
That statement may have been changed by the MorphOS Dev. Team, and I certainly hope that the first release of MorphOS for the G4 PowerBook will have wireless connectivity, but I am not holding my breath, or betting on that being true. _________________ Amiga! The computer that inspired so many, to accomplish so much, but has ended up in the hands of . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 5:04:04
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 5:56:42
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I cant wait to see what 'they' come up with when the x1000 is officially released... |
"They" going to kill you just to distract people from massive success that X1000 will be. It's not paranoia, "They" are against you. Remember how "They" made X1000 not to be released in summer of 2010?
Boy, aren't "They" powerful.Last edited by opi on 21-Sep-2011 at 06:12 AM. Last edited by opi on 21-Sep-2011 at 05:57 AM.
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 6:03:27
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Anybody know where I can get my hands on a copy of OLDER versions of MorphOS (like 1.X)? |
Like here? (Good luck with registration though).
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 6:32:51
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No more registrations allowed, but isn't the time allowed for running longer than the 30 minutes for the MorphOS2.x versions before it starts slowing down? _________________ Amiga! The computer that inspired so many, to accomplish so much, but has ended up in the hands of . . . . . . . . . . |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 6:46:46
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Support for 1.4 was dropped long ago. We cannot distribute the non-Amiga builds using the old production isos and nobody is going to waste time preparing new ones. The gap between 1.xand 2.7 is too huge for this to make sense. |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 6:48:20
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The Amiga versions time out in 2 hours indeed. Too bad the poster did notmention the arch he's interested in. |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 10:25:36
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If I remember correctly pega 1 said he wouldnt want PB support to come out without wifi drivers.. (also 3d drivers as well afaik and i'm sure they have r300 working pretty beta by now) |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 10:28:28
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Well I hope guys listen to you about a1200 version since you were one of the pioneers of it :) (and many are thankful)
Why would anyone want to run 1.4 over 2.x?? |
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 10:42:10
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can see where you are coming from but there arent enough Samantha users to justify "luring" them to MorphOS world with MorphOS. Instead I let cheap PowerBooks lure Samantha users to world of MorphOS =P |
I hear that a lot "not enough Sam users, while ask yourself: how many macs out there?" but I believe it's quite a wrong assumption as ALL Sam users are interested in anything Amiga while mac users like that, can't wait to sell their used stuff to current MOS users which will upgrade to newer systems without generating new blood (or just a few). A ssytem that runs all amigoid OSs is appealing and with MOS on Sam I bet you a six pack that between 440Eps, 440Flex and 460EX you would get at least 500 new users in a short time Last edited by DAX on 21-Sep-2011 at 10:43 AM.
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Re: MorphOS 2.8 cancelled Posted on 21-Sep-2011 13:05:21
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ALL Sam users are interested in anything Amiga |
So you define morphos as 'something amiga', Congratulations you are making progress, however wizzards posts are representative of a large number of sam/os4 users who would rather have their testicles removed than ever try morphos or aros on their sams or if given a plate of gold. These people are extremely fundamentalist and there is no hope for them. Last edited by cheesegrate on 21-Sep-2011 at 01:05 PM.
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